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posted by help

can you build mass and loss fat at same time

posted by Dex

yes. have a good clean diet and do some cardio

posted by brsett

If you've been training more than 6 months, then nope.

posted by illsniggles

You can, you just have to get your diet right.

posted by brsett

Please explain where I would set my calories wrt my maintenance to gain muscle and lose fat. 90% maintenance? 110% maintenance? Where?

I think this is Muscle and Fitness magazine type stuff. Beginners can do it, and steroids can do it for some folks. The rest of us struggle along.

posted by illsniggles

It really depends on your body type, some people can eat anything, get huge and stay shredded to them -- Fk U

but to most its hard, almost impossible to really gain considerable mass and keep lean -- but i would say keep above maintenance, extra clean, and dont go too crazy on the cardio. i have done it in the past where i got bigger and stayed at 11, 12% its just hard, and my metabolism is slowing down anyway so i dont think i could really pull it off anymore...

when i was 17, 18 i was putting on the pounds and never lost sight of my stomach...

posted by SMBLSBGARMS

Soon I'll have to post pics of my younger brother who is my training partner. I don't know his bf% but I would guess 6-7%. He eats everything and is quickly and steadily gaining strength and muscle and no fat. He's never done cardio in his life. If he lowers his calories he'll gain less muscle but get even leaner.
He actually went to a doctor to check for parasites, thyroid probs, whatever. Doc said everything is fine, enjoy it you're a freak.
Stupid thing is, he's not a crackhead looking lean. He's getting big and he's pretty damn strong. Some people can gain muscle and get/stay lean, just not most of us.
And he'll be 31 this year. He was like that in his early 20's and everyone said it would change as he got older. Hasn't changed yet.

posted by illsniggles

That is amazing, I hate him.

posted by howlowcanigo

Same here:banghead: that lucky bastard.

posted by SMBLSBGARMS

It pisses me off, too. I'm his damn brother and I ain't like that. I'm either strong and fat or lean and weak.

posted by howlowcanigo

Don't feel too bad my brother is the exact same way... maybe my mail man was a bodybuilder.:laughing:

posted by illsniggles

lol both are depressing, strong, but you look like a slob, or lean, but your a weak btch

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