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posted by canibalistic_js

So here I am roughly 205+ at 12% bf and I'm 10 weeks away from the show I've gotten leaner since my last bf test but I'm going off the last. It seems I'm maintaining all of my muscle and only losing fat.

My prep cycle

100mcg/day Clen
800mgs eq wk
100mgs eod win starting 8 weeks tillor mid january
4iu's gh then I'll drop it 10 days prior as it was recommended to my (Thanks storm)
100mcgs t-4 w/ post w/o slin inj at 10iu's of slin and meal
t-3 asap 25-50mcgs a day
1000mgs wk test prop stoping wednesday prior
100/100mgs tren masterone eod till the wed prior starting at 8 weeks prior
Halo 3 weeks till the 1st week 5mgs/day, 2nd 10mgs/day, 3rd 20-30mgs/day

I'm debating DNP right now at 200mcgs/day for the last 4 weeks b/c of its anti-catabolic and amazin fatloss properties.

My workout has been 5-6 days a week with a day off when I need it.

Day
1- Chest 5-7 exercises, 4 sets, reps 8-20
2- Back 5-7 exercises, 4 sets, reps 8-20
3- legs 7-8 exercises, 4 sets, reps 8-45
4- shoulders 5 exercises, 4 sets, reps 8-20
5- Arms Bis/tris 5-8 exercises, 4 sets, reps 8-20

Diet

Up until the 8 week mark

7-8am 10 egg whites 1 cup oatmeal

2 iu gh inj 15 min later slin 6 iu's

9-10 2 scoops 0 carb, 50 gram protein, 30 carbs, 0 fat 30 grams oatmeal

11-1 8 oz steak/ham/chicken/turkey 1/2 sweet potatoe

1-3 8 oz steak/ham/chicken/turkey 1/2 sweet potatoe

Preworkout 1iu's gh

4-6 workout

pwo 1iu gh 10 iu's slin/ shake same as above

1 hour later 5 exercises, 4 sets, reps 8-20

Then I usually snack on something like rice cakes, peanut butter, jelly, edamame, something good but contains no bad fat.

Cardio

3 days a week 3-4mph/ treadmill slow jog or incline walk 30min
every 1-2 weeks I'm going to increase it about 10min

Any suggestions? Also, my main problem is waking up at night starving and wanting to eat more, what can/should I eat? Also, during the day I am STARVING!!!!!???? any supps anyone recommend?

posted by Dex

eat lettuce

posted by canibalistic_js

Why?========> (its a penis)

posted by Dex

or celery...when you get hungry. no cals and it will fill your tummy with grass and water

posted by canibalistic_js

I have to eat a head of lettuce to feel full guy. :( Which will get kinda expensive

posted by illsniggles

2 iu gh inj 15 min later slin 6 iu's

mmm sounds delicious...

posted by estray

DNP is the shiznit. I have some friends that have run it recently with great results.

posted by canibalistic_js

I'm still not sure abou it yet because of the health hazards however, If I do it will be like 2 days on 3 off with ECA on off days

posted by estray

Heres some good links.

This guys a bud of mine.
http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/forums/anabolic-diaries/41707-lozans-dnp-journal.html

This guy is writing a book on DNP and is pretty much as close to an expert as i think there is.

Look for Conciliator on this board
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/forums/

Ive read alot of logs on that board and most of those guys are building up to 400-600mg day and running it for 3-4 weeks. The shit is totally safe at reasonable doses and with the proper supps taken with it.

This guy's totally clueless and hes still alive after a 5 week run.
http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/forums/anabolic-diaries/42854-dnp-cycle.html

posted by Aaar0n

The training preperation looks really good Canni.

Can i come train with you?

Keep us updated on the DNP if you decide to take it.
Will be interesting to hear your reviews.

posted by canibalistic_js

I used it before loved the hell out of it but I hated feeling like I ran a marathon all day. Walking to the kitchen which is only about 10ft away was a chore, sitting still in a pile of drenched clothing being sedentary. Sleep the entire night in sweat and waking up with drenched sheets, but the fatloss was unheard of I have yet to take another anti-catabolic/fatloss agent as powerfull as this but I worry about the health hazards

posted by munequita

Wow canni.. so glad your going for a Comp.. when is it and where.. give me details...Your layout looks pretty good to me.. sounds like your doing great progress.. got any pics you can post to keep us updated..??

posted by canibalistic_js

No pics yet maybe I'll do some cam phones in a week or two when I'm not so self conscious. I'm trying to get on aim now but I'm having problems. Its in mid march and In the city I live in which most of you know and that's all she wrote.

posted by canibalistic_js

ok I'm on

posted by estray

LOL. that pretty much sums up DNP right there. i def dont think id want to run it in the summertime.

posted by JDIESEL

personally i think u need to supplement some NO EXPLODE for your pre workout instead of the GH....hahahaha nah man you look like youve put a lot of time into this and i hope you kick some ass in your comp. try drinking water when you get hungry. when i cut i drink it constantly to feel like im full.:thumbs:

posted by canibalistic_js

I should fix it but its too funny. :D Also, the competition was postponed thanks to my trainer saying my legs are under conditioned and to small in the wrong areas. I did cardio every day for the last two weeks and probably lost 2 inches

posted by canibalistic_js

He said "they look like sh*t" I think were his exact words I really took it to heart atleast he's honest and he knows best

posted by Storm

I am not understanding when you are adding in the clen..DNP ugh plain and simple poisionous crap.Careful with the cardio I hope he is trying to bring you in eary then fill you out..To much cardio will flatten you out real quick.

posted by canibalistic_js

LAst week on the clen and not sure on the dnp if I were to do it it would be the last 4 weeks. And, I just appreciated his honesty. He said the cardio kicked my legs asses and that I do cardio when he says.

posted by Storm

Doing the stairmill is what kicks legs into shape..That sumbeyach will kill you quick! I agree do what he says I was just saying I hope his plan is to bring you in early.

posted by canibalistic_js

Not sure what you mean but he said I'm not ready for the MArch show he says maybe september but I want to do this one. So I'm working legs now twice a week 16 sets quads/16 hams shoulder days 16 sets calves

posted by canibalistic_js

I laid off the cardio for about a week now last I did was 10 incline stair climber at a pace of 2.8 which was kicking my ass but also flattened my f*ckin legs. I have been eating correctly and doing everything right losing fat no muscle only lost about 3 pounds since I started and I'm more defined and my arms are filling out and muscles I think its the pwo slin with meal and shake.

posted by Storm

Why did he say your not ready? I am saying doing alot of cardio bring you in quick but sometimes that is better for some but it can overdiet others but agai if it is early ie 4 weeks out you can always fill a person back out..You wi find out quick some days you look like crap other days great..Getting it right day of the show is what is most important.

posted by Dex

get up a picture of your legs and we will tell you, yay or nay

posted by canibalistic_js

Ok, I'll do it when I leave the office. I'm not sure if I'm going to give it up quite yet. I kinda think he's full of sh*t but he said if "I'm putting my name on this your getting first, I'm a professional and if you get second then I'm second and yada yada yada" He's well known on the west coast and by many pros I've seen some of his friends here and there come by Some NFL players, IFBB pros, etc.

posted by Storm

Thatnis retarded for him to say that..It is a judged event and unless he is in with the judges it is up to them not him..I have seen penty of guys and girls that should of taken their class get 2nd and 3rd..Doesnt matter who he has worked with I can promise you he cant garuntee a 1st place win there is way to much factored in..Pretty sure he isn't telling his NFL guys your wining the super bowl my name is on you or his IFBB guys your winning this show b/c my name is on you..Sorry Cani but that was bullshit for him to even say..

Post up your pics bro get use to it now it helsp motivate and will get your mind thinking different..Taking pics every week is key and will help in many ways from posing to what you need to work on.Doesnt matter what you think you look like everyoen needs work and nobody walks around ready for the stage..As long as you do the best you can do then be happy with it.

posted by canibalistic_js

That was so motivational. :D Ok, I'll be home in an hour or two so then.

posted by Storm

Word I got you back..LOL

posted by canibalistic_js

Is that a vein on your dome?

posted by canibalistic_js

What did you place on this show? I'm asking because that's an amazing back with every muscle accentuated.

posted by Storm

I won the hvy wt class..I was still not filled out enough b/c I had dried out to much and it affected my carb up.And yes I think that is a vein or two on my skull.

posted by Enickma

What was your bf% there?

posted by Storm

Probaly around 3.8-4%..I was 4.2% 10 day out..Ok back to Canis thread.

posted by munequita

Well Canni.. we do need to see some pics to see how your process is.. I think if you want to try for the MArch show you should.. to at least get a feel of how it is to do a show. Well, IMO that is. Storm is awesome for this.. He will definetly help you out.

posted by canibalistic_js

I'm going to run to the gym and the pics should be in my in box by then so give me an hour hopefully they will be in there by then.

posted by canibalistic_js

For whatever reason this pics suck I'm much more defined than this but the pics don't serve me justice.

posted by Storm

Yea your gonna have to invest in a good digital camera and get someone to take pics in the mandatory poses Cani..I know full well pics can not show certain things but getting the basic poses down will show alot over time as you keep taking them..

Trust me it is the best way to do things you cant just go though your prep without knowing what you look like when posing or at certain points during your prep..I normally take pics at least every 10-14 days during the entire prep..

posted by canibalistic_js

No problem maybe later today or tomorrow my better half has had a video camera loaned to her so give me a few days to figure the the thing out and keep tanning etc.

posted by canibalistic_js

Nothing else to say? Small arms? Fat tummy? big head? Anything?

posted by estray

Big head, hahaha. Your legs do look a little behind the rest of ya but its really hard to tell from the phone pics. theres just no detail in them cause of the low resolution. cant get a feel for your BF cause of it.

posted by cosmic-dust

The lighting aswell was bad. Your looking very thick, big delts. On competition stage is the lighting set up properly or is there no attention for it?

posted by Storm

I really dont want to say anything until I see full body shots Cani. Nothing bad but it is just better when the shots are full body.That way symentry can be seeing and what area need to be worked for better balance..Esy to say big delts and thick arms but maybe they don;t look as big as they should when a full body shot is see or maybe they overpower some other areas..You have seen the pics I take during a prep so get it done..Plus you have to work on your posing..Nothing worse then getting in shape and looking like a retarded fish out of water trying to pose.

posted by canibalistic_js

I'll have my better half take some pics for you guys.

posted by canibalistic_js

Ok, I'm getting those pics done tonight. I'm putting on weight that I lost but looking leaner and bigger. Its crazy what proper dieting can do. Also, I'm carb depleting today.

7am 2iu's of gh, 10mgs var, 1cc tren,2cc's eq, 3cc's test prop, 2 caps shredder, 20mcgs of clen ( I am my own science project)

715 - 10 egg whites blended with 2 scoups of On whey
715 - 6 iu's of slin

9am 2 cups of edamame

11 am 2 cans of tuna, 1 cap of shredder, 20mcgs of clen

12 pm shake 35 grams of protein

1pm starving-----

Whats the theory behind carb depleting again? I'm only going to do this for about

posted by Big A

ITS ALIVE!!! ALIVE!!!! ALIVE!!!!

posted by munequita

whoa.. so excited for ya.. AWESOME ..!!! HE IS GROWING!!!! AAAHHH!!!!

posted by Storm

why are you taking clen right now? Your going to get a rebound when you stop.

posted by canibalistic_js

Ok, I'll stop. When should I start?

posted by Storm

I tyhink you should take it the last 3 weeks up til the day of the show..As I said in the PM take your other fat burners during the day and the clen at night..Dnt stop any fat burners until after the show or again you will get a rebound effect especailly in water and that is what wins shows.

posted by canibalistic_js

What about the ECA?

posted by munequita

What is a rebound affect? sorry for interfering with the thread canni. But I am curious... Thanks

posted by Storm

Yes take your ECA's during the day then clen at night..Anykind of fatburners is going to help keep water off you so once you stop there will be a rebound effect and you will hold some water..Whe you get realy lean IE 5% and lower it is very easy to wash out your look with a little water under the skin..

I wake up in the morning looking like an anatomy chart and after my firlst meal and 32oz of water all gone washed out in a few hours..

posted by canibalistic_js

When should I start ECA?

posted by canibalistic_js

concluding yesterdays meals included 2 more large shakes 1 10 oz steak a large salad, and 6 oz of shcrimps and I'll have the same today and probably the same for the next 3 days proceeding tuesaday sat I'm going to carb load then a solid day of regular diet sweet potoates and sofemthing like that

Second day of carb depleting. I am starting to get spacey with out carbs. This is day two of the carbs

8am 2 iu's of gh

830 10 egg whites

10 am 50grams zero carbs isopure protein

1200pm 2 cans of tuna and some edamame

I just threw up the tuna and protein so I'm going to eat it again, I'll keep you posted

posted by Storm

ECA starts now take it everyday..Is this the diet giving by your guy? Where the heck are the carbs? Carb depeltion doesn't mean no carbs just a low day and def some carbd in the morning regardless..My lowest carb day still had 100-150g..

posted by canibalistic_js

No I'm just doing this for 3 days then 3 starchy then 1 load. I am still eating carbs but in the forms of veggies during my first three

posted by canibalistic_js

Yea thats what my guy is recommending, storm look at this I don't really care at this point I'm losing fat I'm at 11ish% bf and getting bigger and at this point I'm willing to listen to you over this guy

posted by Storm

Hey whatever works Cani if your losing bf and keep on your muscle then fine I just found it weird you had no carbs for your first three meals besides a little fibours carbs which isnt anythng but filler to be honest..I didnt eat any veggies at all during my prep..

I am sure he has a plan so I hope it all works out for you on show day..Again I am betting he is trying to have you come in early then fill you back out.

posted by canibalistic_js

Storm you would know better than most of us so I hope your right. I'm going to buy a digi camer today or on friday

posted by Storm

I am thinking he is worried since 10 weeks and 12% can be looked at in a few dif ways..Just all depends on how fast you can be brought in without losing to much muscle..12% is the max IMO that you want to get in offseason and 12-16 weeks is the prep you need again depending on how you can chnage.

Some change quick some come in slow so it is just trial and error gotta do it to know it..I was 9% to start my prep and I should have done 8 or 9 weeks not 12..

You will be fine it is all a learning exp so when you do it again you just get better..Def get that camera and get to taking good pics to see how things progress..

posted by Smallguy

Hey Canni another thing about DNP you need to remember is you will hold water on it

I don;t think you will need it and I don;t recommend it I'd just hate to see you bust your ass and add in DNP and then hold water like a mofo

posted by canibalistic_js

REally?!? Sh*t that was half the reason I was taking it.!!! Any duretics for the day of you dudes recommend

posted by Storm

Thouhg my exp I don;t like diuretics to much and if you do need them then that friday only maybe a samll amount sat morn..Start taking in 3gals plus on monday or tues and start cutting back on thursday and fri and you will dry out nice..You should be taking in 2gals a day anyways..Diazide is the best choice IMO there are a few others but again not doing it right can fck up the way you look and mess with your carb load.

posted by canibalistic_js

Lasix????

posted by Storm

No lasix..It is by far the strongest but also one of th most dangerous..IMO it is only good if your doing a shitload carb up for the show..plus you have to load on potassium several days before the show.

posted by canibalistic_js

How????

posted by Storm

How what?

posted by canibalistic_js

how do you take the potassium

posted by Storm

Well again Cani is your guy helping you on the diuretics? Laix isn't something to guess at you have to be taking the Potass about 3-4 days out with every meal usually 99mg then come friday a little more..I don't think you should use lasix just to tricky to use it can really flatten you out.

posted by canibalistic_js

No he says to use as much natural stuff as possible. He said don't worry about that now just do as I say. I don't like that I personally want to know for my own reasons and doing the research myself to avoid any second guessing if I can get my own and do it the same way or better. I hear 2-3grams of potassium with no more tyhan 40mgs of lasix after carbs loading but then I heard of some other stuff I have written down.

posted by Storm

I agree but even the natual stuff which I used my last show dried me out to much and it affected my carb load..it is good to take potass anyways but not as much unless your going to use a potass sparring diuretic.

If you do use a diurtetic I would go with something ese besides lasix.aldactone,natual,diazide any of those before lasix.

posted by canibalistic_js

For the last 2 weeks I have been trimming down I'm getting leaner and leaner every day. My diet has been roughly

7-8am 10egg whites

8:30 2-4ius of gh, 50mcgs of t-3, 100mcgs of t-4, 25mgs of winny, glucosamine, mutlivitimin, and shredder

9-10am 50 gram 0 carb shakes

11-1pm 2 cans of tuna and 2 cups of edamame, shredder and 50mcgs of t-4

2-3 50 gram shake

4-5 meal 2 chicken breast/10oz of steak and 3-4oz of shrimp and 3 cups of spinach

preworkout- 10mgs var

Workout

6-9pm 100gram shake

I'm eatinng like this about 4-5 days a week then on the weekend I load on carbs like everymeal. I'm starting to get supid and cant really think rights. its wierd but I'm getting leaner every day.

posted by Big A

hows the progress cani?

posted by munequita

how you doing cani..?? Updates..

posted by ccubanliinkpapii

damn im goign to print this out this what i need in my life!! good routine and food!!! thanx!! u dont mind if i copy u right lol!

posted by canibalistic_js

go ahead guys and here's the update.

Drugs using: Gh 1-6 iu's/day, 900mgs of test prop EOD, EQ 800mgs, t-3 50mgs/day, 100mcgs/day, arimidex 1mgs/eod, tren 100mgs/eod, I'm going to be dropping the test for Primo and masterone here this week I'll run those every day.

Diet:

7am- 10 egg white 1iu-2ius gh

8am - 100gm shake with oatmeal 1 cup

10am - fuit shake with no xplode

12-1pm - 2 chicken breasts/steak and shrimp etc 2 cups of salad

3pm - 2 cans of tuna gagged down with water

5-6 pm workout

7-9pm same as meal 3

rice cake

I've been eating natural peanut butter to curve my appetite or a shake

My body adapted to the 0 carb thing. On the weekends I carb load with like little day 1(friday), 2 (sat) moderate 300gms of starches, 3 (sun) all I can eat as much as possible until I am flat and round.

Currently I've been bouncing between 186-192ish bf is roughly >9% but probably lower would be my educated guess. You can see all my abs 3 days after ab day and I have done a total of 200min of cardio in the last few weeks I'm at week 7 but I'm probably due to drop another 5-8lbs with out giving muscle. I am hungry all the time and starving tunda taste like moist bad smelling paper towels, chicken is dry no matter how good it is, and I'm never thought I would dislaike steak but I'm getting there. I got a few good recipes for those interested even for cutting, spagetti pasta with chicken and cheese.

I've also been tanning which so they say helps release subcutaneous water which I personally sounds like marking propaganda but it help with this skin condition I have developed brought to you by my 4 year stay in the military.

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