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posted by canibalistic_js
The clen and whatever this lame Ass diet is killing me either way I am getting ridiculous muscle cramps and I am going to have a conniption next time I have one. Anyways I'm am a little worried about the problem persisting due to my frequent increase in dosing and contemplating lowering the dose. Any ideas on what to do?

I am taking glutamine, glucosamine, MSM, Multivit, Potassium and chromium, clen, tren, testprop, eq, dnp, var, winny, b-12, no more GH, Halo, and thats all I can think of.

Heres my concern I plan to take some duretics soon and anticipate some serious muscle cramping but would love to either A. numb the muscles or B. Prevent it from happening in the first place, any ideas? All ideas?


On Wednesday dropping my water to a gal and a half, thursday a gallon, friday half and Sat nada but sipping spit.

I'm carb loading on wed, thurs, and I think friday but I'm not sure about friday yet I'm getting mixed feelings about it. Anyhow, I also want some competitors or ex to maybe point me in a direction of that. I'm starting depleting sodium and anything really but rice cakes, organice plain brown rice, asparagus, and shrimp with red pepper (yay) and tobasco and many many shakes

Well, lets see I have have had my toe cut open by myself to avoid surgery because my doc wants me to get an ingrown toenail cut out and destroy the matrix of the nail grid so it doesn't grow back in that area but that would have put out of this which I should have done already because of how behind I am so now I'm making up for everything ten fold. This sux

This I believe the first week of Jan

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This was in early febuary

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This was in mid feb

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More recent

its not letting me upload the remainder of the recent ones I'll put another thread in a day or two.

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nOT FLEXING MY LEGS OR CALVES

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posted by canibalistic_js
I started at 210 probably 18-20% in January those last few pics are after the gym so my skin is a little loose and I look a little disproportionated. I'm actually 185 today

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j73/canibalistic_js/Picture037.jpg

Honestly I think I'm way behind but I'll see at the end of this week if anything changes I know it will but how much is the question if I don't look good enough then I may not show.

posted by Morgan
looking pretty cut there cani

posted by Big A
aside from the squirlle peakin out of yr pants in the 3rd pic your lookin lean and mean bro. :thumbs: as far as cramps go taruine might help ya out a bit, i didnt see it on the list and it may help clear up some of the cramping

posted by canibalistic_js
How much taurine should I run? And how much potassium

posted by Storm
Up I thought you said you were 5%? When is the show again? I agree you are behind and taking the tauring will help wiht the cramps from the clen as it burns up the taurine in your body..Your holding alot of water..You depelte from about 4 days our form the wed before you carb load till the show b/c as you drop your water your filling your self out..I know you droped the one prep guy who is doing your prep for the last 2 weeks those are the most important..You cant be doing ti yoursefl you will just not get ti right it has to be from someone who knows what to do and can see you.

IMO cut your water out at 5pm not sure what dirutetcs your taking but as I have said if taken wrong you can fck up your carb load but form the looks of it you will need them from the water your holding now..

If your not shredded first thing in the morninh then something has to be tweaked as your wake up should be showing what you will look like on stage but flat..

Take 99mg of potass with every meal take 2-4 grams of taurine a day spread out..Last do the show you have gone this far you have to finish and see what happens when you drop the water and carb load or you wont learn anything..Balls up and get it done..IMO your carb rotain was done right and maybe your protein wasnt high enough what are your eating shrimp for?

posted by canibalistic_js
I'm eating chicken. my trainer busted my balls for the shrimp but I thought it was ok I'm going to give it a shot but you think I'm holding so much water what do you recommend? I'm taking some generic GNC water pills but otehr than that nothing tell me what to do so I can get it. Thanks I been waiting for your input.

Honestly I'm way behind and I'm scared to even compete but I started something and I think I should finish it.

posted by Storm
If your not drinking 2 gals of water everyday then start dont take anything to shed water until you need to come the show..Who is doing your diet? You said your trainer busted your balls for the shrimp why did you think it was ok? Do you not have a layed out diet to follow for the prep?

Juts tryin to get an idea of who is doing what and why..Give me numbers what is your protein intake on your hi, med and low day? Same with the carsb what are the numbers for hi,med,lo?

posted by canibalistic_js
I have no idea I thought it was cool because of the fat disposing properties of scrimp.

My high day of protein is about 220, med is about 180 and low is about 150. I'm eating basically organic chicken and no more fish and shakes ispopure.
CArbs High 400grams, med is about 200grams, low 100, brown organic rice, or plain rice cakes, or oatmeal. Veggies are asparagus bc of the natural duretics in it and thats about it. Right now I'm depleting carbs until thurs thats what I was told but your word is golden over hers, I'm drinking 2 gals a day of water distilled from the store they have this local place that sells em for like pennys on the dollar. On thursday I'm going to load I'm not sure how much I just listen to her and him I'm thinking probably like 600ish, then friday like 200 then deplete sat. Waters going to be about a gal on thursday then half on friday, then none on Sat. I don't even know what I'm going to eat on sat if I am or not but I know I look a lot better in the morn. Prejudging is at 1 then the show at 6pm. Theres a gym down the street should I pump bewteen? I got a lot of questions for you bro so please be around for the next few...:D

posted by Storm
Not enough protein thatis the cause your you not mantain more muscle..IMO your protein shoudl look like this 300,275, 220..No reason to drink distilled water until the last few days..I seriously doubt you will be able to full load yourself in less then 2 days..You would have to use slin and it is obvious they dont know how to use it and it isnt worth the try..

Classic cabr load comes from a 3-4 day deplete until wed you do your last workout that day light sets hard contractions to squeeze what ever glycogen you have left in your muscles out then you start your load until the show and all day of the show..

If you did all of it right you wont spill over but IMO your not lean enough so your going to have to be careful with the load..I am not getting how they have PJ at 1pm?? I have never seen or heard of that PJ is ALWAYS 10am most times 10:30am night show always 6pm unless it is a national level show..

No oatmeal unless you eat it dry and even then I wouldnt..White rice is better as it is a bit quicker and that is what you want..IMO your water should be like this 3 gals or more Tuse,wed, thurs 2.5 gals friday 1/2 gal cut off 5pm..

Agian watch your carb load come saturday after the show eat whaever you want as long as you dont take in any water depending on your call outs you can see where you might place so if you are close to wining it then be care ful if not then eat your ass off and see what happens so you can learn.

I dont think now looking again you need any diruetics I am afraid it will flatten you out if anything maybe soe aldactone friday night before bed 50mgs.

You pump up whne your call is going to be called up they will tell you how long you have and keep an ear out as to when that might be you only want to pump up for about 15-20mins before you hit the stage.

posted by canibalistic_js
Ok, should I run the slin on those days or not? Should I load another day? I don't get what you mean? So, in essence my carb cycle is on par but not the protein, I see. I just made a bag of rice but now I'm depleting.

I already lightened my weight and I'm super setting 2 sets with like 6 sets of 8

What about cardio? when should I stop? YGM

posted by Storm
No your not lean enough to run slin..Well not sure if your cabr cycle was on par or not since I dont know how the carbs were rotated..No cardio after wed morning..Agin do you not have someone teling you to do any of this?

You know you dont work out legs 7-10days our right? Upper body is fine up until wed mroning also..

Without being able to see you in perosn or have crystal clear pics I cant tell you how to carb load or how long or how much..IMO start your deplete sunday keep the carbs at 50g but again if you have someone telling you waht to do post that up..To me your not lean enough to do a big carb load so that makes it even more tricky to fill you out right as you drop water..

posted by canibalistic_js
Well what I'm doing now since I just dropped oatmeal for cooked white rice. This is about what I was told and honestly I can't even think straight no I'm not saying I'm gay.

5-7am 1 cup of white rice

45-60 Cardio MRP
45 Weights upper

8-9 am 4 servings of egg whites which is like 8-10 eggs it comes to like 36 grams of protein.

10-12 50-100gram zero carb shake, 2 rice cakes

1-2 pm 8 oz of chicken breast 30 grams of plain, organic brown rice

3-4 pm 50 gram shake

6-7 pm PM cardio 45 min/45 min weights upper

8-10 a chicken breast/shake spread out through out a few hours and/without rice

The rice is either more or less depending on the load and same with protein. Also, where there is rice asparagus would be added by either a cup or a few. I'm dropping the water quickly via idex, nolva, and the other fatloss. What was the name of that duretic? Can I get it in Mexico?

I don't think my carb cycle had anything to do with it I had to take a few days off for an infected toe that looked like a purple light bulb the doc gave me cephlaxin, prednisone, and hydrocodone, they are a pretty good combo. Could that be affecting this? I stopped taking the codeine and cephlex but not the prednisone. I'm also running nolva now at 60mgs/day. I'm going to get some better pics up because I look so fat in the front on those pics. In the morn you can see all of my abs and separations in just about everything but I appreciate everyones critiquing me also, is bf my major weakness?

posted by Storm
Uh yea prednionse makes you hold water or can did wiht me..That is a heck of a combo for an infected toe bro they could give you anything topical to control it?

You taking in way to many shkes all your meals should be whole foods now and your still nott aking in enough protein your meals shouls be around the 50g mark on a low day of carbs it isnt going to save you now but for future ref remeber that by you not upping you preotein hgher when cabs are lower your reducing your caloric in take.

Again if your as lean as you say in the am then take pics that are bright light and clear..I would not do any diruteics since you say your dry in the am I just dont see it in those pis..The diuretic I spoke of is OTC taraxatone oh opps I also sais aldactone didt I..In mexico it is called spriolactone I think.

When you carb load use the small red potatoes and peel them no skin at all..Rice has water in it.

posted by canibalistic_js
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j73/canibalistic_js/Picture035-1.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j73/canibalistic_js/Picture.jpg

Ok I just bought a bag of red potatoes. Do you have my number? I also kinda have loose skin does anything help that out?

posted by canibalistic_js
Yea about the toe thing nothing topical didn't even offer but it was narly looking it was pussing and ugly and it still hurts to be honest with you, its not even healed all the way.

Ok, I dropped the prednisone. No more shakes? Ok, I dropped like 3-5% from only eating shakes. :D lol anyway I guess I'll eat. So more protein? okey dokey.

I'm going to mexico on friday so I'll pick some up with like idex and something else maybe.

posted by canibalistic_js
is that a better pic?

posted by Storm
not really Cani your still holding water..No offsense but are you sure your gear is legit..From everything you said your taking I am not seeing the effects or results that should be there..You have to work on your posing..Come your next offseason you have several areas to work on to balance out your look..

Also next time you do a show hire a good prep guy IMO the peopel you worked with did not know shit for contet prep and your genetics is what got you where you at now not the diet...Again do the show it will be good expirience but plan for a better offseason and a much better team for your prep..If you drop your water right your skin wil tighten up also as you fill out your skin will be stretched.

posted by canibalistic_js
How do I lose the water? Also, YGM

posted by Storm
I explained how to drop your water in an earlier posts didnt I? IMO drink 3+gals of cold pure spring water not distilled from monday till wed before the show..Thurs 2.5 gals friday 1/2 gal cut off at 4pm..There are other things you can do with sodium but without me being there it is impossible to tell you how to do it and not make mess up your look..

Rule of thumb be ready for your show about 2 weeks out the only thing left to do in those two weeks is tweak a few thngs dry out and load up which is tricky but none the less you should be ripped up and looking like you can step onstage at 2 weeks out..I replied to your PM.

posted by AMERFOOTBALL
im a little late into reading at seeing all this cani, but were you running the dnp throughout all those pics? DNP makes you hold water like a mofo. thats why you look your best 96 hours or so after stopping the dnp.

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