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posted by bigpappapump

My freind recently finished his cycle of Halodrol and made amazing gains. Halodrol is banned now but it's being reproduced under a different name. It's called Promagnon 25. This is the active ingredient: 4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3, 17b-diol

I've heard that prohormones and steroids stunt your growth because of build up of estrogen. My question is, if this is true and that is the only reason why ph/steriods are said to stunt growth, would it be safe to take a steroid/ph that does not aromatize into any type of estrogen?

I really want to start promagnon but the whole growth stunt thing is what's stopping me. I'm turning 17 tomorrow by the way and I'm 5ft 7.

so would taking promagnon 25 or anything else that doesn't convert into estrogen be safe as far as the closing of the growth plates go? If you know please tell me.

posted by AMERFOOTBALL

don't use any ph
or aas. you are 17. good day

posted by Robfromny

you could definatly stunt your growth or worse if you use as this age... dont even touch the pro hormones... i think definatly a multi vitamen and whey proteint powder, and possibly ZMA, glutamine, and creatine may be alright too

posted by jimbo

yea man it anit worth it, i almost took p hormone and i m16 and im glad i didnt, because , u gottatihnk aobut it, body building is a thingu do for life, ppl that just do it to get big and stop after that isnt what body building is, plus u wanna have kids and shit rite, or be 5,7 forthe rest of life do u, causei know i dont. so jt stikc to ur diet and creatine and stuff and ur gonna grow, wait till ur odler to that that stuff man

posted by bigpappapump

You guys still didn't answer my question. I did not ask your opinions on wheather I should take them or not. I stated some basic facts and based on those facts I asked a question that went like:

I've heard that prohormones and steroids stunt your growth due to build up of estrogen, which some how close your growth plates. My question is, if this is true and that is the only reason why ph/steriods are said to stunt growth, would taking a steroid/ph such as Promagnon-25 that does not aromatize into any type of estrogen stunt growth?

posted by Robfromny

lifting heavey and the estrogen both do it i think

posted by Storm

Did you ever thing that if your firends are as young as you there gains are realy coming from there own groth spurts and a little trick in the head since they belive they are taking something "amazing"...Mind is a powerful tool t bad most just act like tools with it..

posted by bigpappapump

My freind who took it is 18 and he's been lifting for 2 and a half years. He started his cycle at 154lbs and finished at 174lbs. His lifts went up as followed: bench 210lbs to 275lbs squats:320lbs to 435lbs So i'm pretttttyy sure it wasn't just a "growth spurt"

Anyways nevermind guys, if you're not going to answer my question properly then stop flaming me. I should have known better than to ask something like this on a forum.

posted by CUTS

bro roids will stunt your growth because the test. certian chemicals make you grow and when you add more it could make your body think to stop making those chemicals. pretty simple?? so any steroid will stunt your growth

posted by Improvise

I was 17 when I first started using oral pro-hormones. I remember M1T came out and everybody on my football team got a hold of it and thought it was the best thing ever.

I'm not gonna lie, I made huge gains and gained around 10-13 pounds in a month. Problem was that once I was off, the weight I was putting up and my weight decreased every week. It was lame. I don't really regret doing it because the side affects weren't bad FOR ME (muscle cramps and fatigue is the only thing that I experienced), but it does piss me off that I spent a good amount of my money on the stuff.

Some of my other friends did experience some bad side affects. Lots of acne, muscle cramps, temper, and constant fatigue all day. I don't know if it's going to stunt your growth or not, but I honestly don't think it's worth the money. I'd just eat more, lift harder, wait a few years and get into AAS if you're still not happy with your size.

posted by CUTS

you talking about this???

http://www.elitesupplements.com/Gaspari_Halodrol_50_p/gaspari23.htm

posted by bigpappapump

Yeah that's what I'm talking about, but it's not being produced anymore under the name Halodrol and it's double the price if you do find the original Halodrol. Promagnon-25 is the same as halodrol only it comes in 60 25mg tabs instead of 30 50mg tabs.

posted by Storm

When I sat growth spurt I mean at his age he is going to grow pretty well without anything if he puts his mind to it but you want to be a whiner and not listen which is fine do what you want the exp lies in what you do so go for it Big boy since your handle doesn't match what you are I suggest you get to work..

posted by the masterpiece

this kid is making a mistake im 17 and yea i thought about it (D-Bol) but when u find the rite diet and use No-Explode your going to think your on steriods...when i used No-Explode i was on top of the world dumbbell press 75-80 in reps now i can only do like 60-65 tried 70 but struggled missiribly im telling u don't want to add something in your body that isn't naturally produced at such a young age (keep in mind if u do choose to use aas your going to have to keep on buying them to keep your size and when u stop taking them there goes your muscles that u gained because the chemicals that went into your muscles aren't being injected anymore therefore your going to loose size

posted by jimbo

no xpodei s deadly im on it write nwo and stacking it iwht nitrix and im getitng some good stregnth gains,

posted by the masterpiece

your damn rite

posted by CUTS

haha i also promote the usage of BSN

posted by the masterpiece

yea im sponsered by them if u look at all my posts most of them have me commenting BSN's products

posted by CUTS

you really sponsored?

posted by jimbo

hahha sweet hoke i up wiht some stuff lol

posted by TomSizeMore

I've been the same height since I was 14yrs old. I also wear a size 16 shoe which is rediculously big for my height (6'4"). Coincidentally, I started taking AAS at the age of 14.....

Just some food for thought.

posted by Storm

Well I have never fully agrees with it stunting oyur growth but fck TSM 14 why the hell would you do that?? I mean really how did all of that go about??

posted by TomSizeMore

I just hung with older kids and lived close to mexico. Hell it got me a football scholarship and I could have been in the NFL right now if I really had wanted to. For me, it was a business decision as my family didn't have the money to send me to college and I wanted to go.

posted by jimjackss

mhmmm

posted by p9d6

Wht the hell are you diggng this year old thread up for.

posted by Morgan

ya just to say mhmmmm
nice first post jim jackass

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