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posted by franco921
Just got some question about which supplements to take I know theres lipo 6 and hydroxycut i wanted to know which one its better or its there anything better out there?

posted by illsniggles
ephedrine and clenbuterol

posted by Dex
yep. D4 and clen

posted by howlowcanigo
I've taken both lipo 6 and hydro hardcore and honestly they are both garbage and don't work.

posted by illsniggles
anything u can buy from GNC for fat burning is garbage, u need black market, "grey" market stuff lol

posted by howlowcanigo
Exactly they only take stuff off the market that works. Most people that have problems with "illegal" supplements are doing something wrong anyways.

posted by A.B
diet and cardio is what burns fat ;)

posted by president_fad
dnp
destroys fat cells.

posted by brsett
You should read an awful lot on dnp before screwing with it. It is toxic, and apparently overheating your organs is a bad way to go. I've thought about taking it, though I've had laser eye surgery, and I'd hate to ruin that with cataracts.

posted by estray
Take DNP and then run 5 miles. Youll never have to worry about fat again. :thumbs:

posted by estray
BTW, dont do that. Youll be dead.

posted by AMERFOOTBALL
if you coudl bring yourself to even attempt to run while taking dnp you are a badass imho. that shit will make you hate life.

posted by estray
From everything ive read and heard, you take it and just sit there in an air conditioned room and hope you dont spontaneously combust. Lol.

posted by AMERFOOTBALL
what do you expect for a 30% increase in metabolism.

posted by Dex
3 words....not worth it. diet and run lazy ass!

posted by brsett
IMO, the problem with DNP is the side effects. Well, other than the fact that if you overdose you'll die a painful death. Mitigating them all is a pain in the ass, and they can't all be avoided (e.g. increased risk of cataracts).

It's a good lesson tho: for something to work, it has to have serious effects on the body. DNP works, but it does some crazy shit to your body.

All the supplements you buy at GNC may not work -- but at least they aren't actively toxic I guess.

Heck, even ephedrine raises the risk of having a stroke. Clen some nasty long term problems (though people don't abuse that one like they used too I guess, so maybe at reasonable dosages its not as bad).

posted by Dex
no thank you


First, it is a toxic dye, chemically related to Trinitrophenol (Picric Acid), second, it is found in insecticides, wood preservatives, herbicides, explosives, and is also a hazardous material. Third, it is used in science to couple or attach to DNA molecules.

Combustible. Gives off irritating or toxic fumes (or gases) in a fire. Risk of fire and explosion. DO NOT expose to friction or shock. MAY BE ABSORBED! Redness. Roughness. Yellow staining on the skin. PHYSICAL STATE; APPEARANCE: YELLOW CRYSTALS ROUTES OF EXPOSURE: The substance can be absorbed into the body by inhalation, through the skin and by ingestion. PHYSICAL DANGERS: Dust explosion possible if in powder or granular form, mixed with air. INHALATION RISK: Evaporation at 20°C is negligible; a harmful concentration of airborne particles can, however, be reached quickly. CHEMICAL DANGERS: May explosively decompose on shock, friction, or concussion. May explode on heating. Shock-sensitive compounds are formed with alkalis, ammonia and most metals. The substance decomposes on heating producing toxic gases including nitrogen oxides. EFFECT OF SHORT-TERM EXPOSURE: The substance may cause effects on metabolism, resulting in very high body temperature. Exposure may result in death.

http://bbforums.com/showthread.php?t=142

posted by brsett
No pain, no gain. I know people who've used it. They didn't keel over. It's certainly not for people who can't figure out what's in muscle milk or how to take creatine. I'm not endorsing or suggesting it. But I'm not irrationally afraid of it either (actually, I'm rationally afraid of it, I don't want cataracts, it cost me thousands of dollars to fix my eyes).

I would add, that while A.B. points out that 200mg is an effective dose for a 200lb male, I believe around 300-400mg would be a fatal dose. So if you took it in the morning, and then accidently took it again at night, it could be fatal. Certainly I have accidently taken my multivitamin more than once in the same hour when I've gotten confused over it.

posted by SMBLSBGARMS
The ol' treadmill ain't lookin so bad, huh?

posted by estray
Thats 8 words.:laughing:

posted by illsniggles
lolol i have the same fkn problem, i take a hanful of pills, i come back 20 minutes later, and im just sitting there like, wtf did i take these? lol

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