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posted by apple
whats up everyone i have a few questions....
i used to work out and then i stopped and gained weight when i worked out i didnt take anything but multivitamins.....now im back in the gym and i gained weight so my questions is what is a good fat burner that would work really well i already tried muscle tech hydroxy cut hardcore, lipo6,hot roxx, and they dont help i took stackers with ephedra before and now i dont want to do it so whats a good one out there...?
also is there anything out there that isnt a steriod that can transform my fat into muscle??
and my final question is has anyone ever used muscle tech Vapor??is it good does it work?

thanks everyone

posted by Big A
strict diet, cardio and weights no magic to it




MT = empty wallet so you will drop weight in a sense


edit*** welcome to BBF, give us some information about yourself, height, weight, diet and goals we can help you out from there

posted by Morgan
muscletech NANO vapor is a prewo formula to give you energy and stamina (supposedly) and like big A said there is no magic pill just proper diet and excercise

posted by tacoma_D
I don't think fat burners are worth the money. I've never tried them but i always hear they never work.
the NaNO vapor stuff? My friend gave me a scoop before a workout one time to try it. It made me kinda hyped up and it felt like my body temp was up a bit. I felt kinda warm. As far as increasing pumps and stuff I didn't notice any major differences from cheaper NO supps, but I didn't use it long enough to see a diff.

posted by apple
5'4 220 pounds i eat eggs whites for breakfast chicken for lunch and dinner my goal is to loose weight build muscle and look good

posted by Big A
first things first get your diet in check try eating 6 times a day to help speed up your metabolism, also if you can do cardio in the morning before you eat. do at least 20min of cardio each time if you do less you are waisting your time. your diet is key though high protein, lower carbs, fats, salts and just about anything else that makes food taste good. keep a log for a week of exactly what you eat then post it up so we can help you more with that. fitday.com is a good place to log what you eat set up the free account there for that. use the search button and if you cant find it there ask questions, also slap up your workout routine and we will help ya with that as well

:thumbs:

posted by apple
thank you big A i will post up my routine soon because i just got back to the gym so i am just messing around the first week to get my body used to the gym again but eating wise for the past 3 days this is what i ate

morning:3 egg whites with cheese and 2 slices of turkey bacon
lunch time 2 grilled chicken cutlets and ice berg lettuce
after my work out usually a grilled chick salad with tomatoes cucumber lettuce and ranch dressing....

is there a diet you can suggest for me to follow

thanks

posted by Big A
http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/

use that bad boy right ther to figure out your BMR then shoot for a few hundred cals less than that say like 250-500cals then its kind of a finess thing you have to keep protein high while at the same time keeping your cals in that range.

again i would say use www.fitday.com to help in keeping track of what you eat. try to keep your protein up to about 1.5-2g per pound, so around 330g + per day

posted by bearman1
the boys are right..90 percent diet,

posted by apple
ok i will try both websites and keep you guys updated on how i am doing thank you very much for your help talk to you soon

posted by apple
i used the website my BMR was 2093 i did BMR(2093) x 1.55 = 3244.15 now i cant figure out how much calories daily i need to loose weight rather than maintain the weight i am now can someone help

posted by apple
my weekly routine is as follows:

Mondays:chest
4 sets of bench(incline,decline,flat)
4 sets cable cross overs
and 2 other chest machines 4 sets each
25min brisk walking at 3.4-4.0 treadmill
5-15 min ski machine


Tuesdays:back
all 4 sets
wide pull downs
close pull downs
and two other machines
25min brisk walking at 3.4-4.0 treadmill
5-15 min ski machine

Wednesdays:legs
my legs are strong so i do very little legs but i up my cardio to more time

Thursdays:shoulders and traps
shoulder press
dumbell workout
and two other im not sure what they are called everything is 4 sets
25min brisk walking at 3.4-4.0 treadmill
5-15 min ski machine

Fridays:bi and tri
bi:
dumbell curls
machine curls
barbell curl
cable curls
hammers
tri:
skull crushers
dips
cable pull down
dumbells
and 2 other machine workouts
25min brisk walking at 3.4-4.0 treadmill
5-15 min ski machine

Saturday and Sunday: rest



here is the routine i used before and started doing again feel free to make adjustments and suggestions thank you

posted by apple
here is what i ate so far for the past two days that i have recorded on fitday.com

http://fitday.com/WebFit/DayFoodsTab.asp
http://fitday.com/WebFit/DayFoodsTab.asp

posted by csyflt
In my oppinion no matter how strong your egs are you should always hit them relly hard at least one day out of every week. It is a good thing you have strong legs. You should take advantage of that and make them stronger. And try makeing wednesday and sunday a rest day.

posted by csyflt
^ Legs

posted by Big A
here is my opinion,

1 you are doing way to much arm work and not allowing your arms the time needed to recoup therefore hindering growth.

2 not working your legs hard is a bad idea, your legs may be strong but doing squats, leg press, lunges are gonna help your entire body.

3 where are the dead lifts man? thats another major one you need to throw in there as well

definately make leg day your hardest workout day, rather than your lightest.

posted by apple
i work out my legs i just dont want my legs to be huge i already have fat thighs and have a hard time finding jeans..lol but i will up my leg workout also when u say way to much arm you mean that i have to many exercises for bis and tris?? if you could recomend a routine i need a change i would appreciate it thanks big A and everyone else

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