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posted by thunderterd
for a friend, really.

he wants to gain strength, but not put on too much mass. he want s to do deca 600mg a week and either anavar, tren, or winny. he seem s set on anavar. could someone post a cycle idea? i don't know what to tell him.

he also seems set on no test. thanks for advice

posted by gymphreak
well if he runs deca, hes gonna crash badly if its his first cycle....and the sides are gonna outweigh the benefits...IMO...get him on test alone..

posted by thunderterd
this will be his third cycle, his last was deca alone and he had great gains and no side effects at all. except nose bleeds. he is set on not using test this cycle.

posted by gymphreak
well if he wants strength, might as well get him on deca/drol.....if he uses tren with deca, hes gonna be playing with fire unless he has b6 or bromo/dost on hand....Var is a waste of money unless hes cutting, and var will do nuttin through the cycle if hes runnin deca (bloat will take away the looks from var till the bloat goes away...not so good for the ol peanut)

IMO, if he wants a great strength cycle....tren/winny would be a good blend. test should be thrown in.....ive talked to guys that are starting out, and they put on like 100lbs on their bench with a proper diet and a test/tren/winny....cycle...and they lean out well to boot.

posted by thunderterd
i'll tell him...thanks for the advice. now i have a question for myself...

i'm still in my current (2nd) cycle. test and deca. i'm thinking about my third.

I want to cut, but i really don't want to inject more than 2 times a week. any ideas?

i dont want to use tren or eq.

posted by gymphreak
what are your reasonings for not using tren or eq?

posted by thunderterd
i don't want to inject more than 2 times a week. aren't they both an every day or every other day thing?

posted by gymphreak
EQ is a long ester steroid...can be injected twice a week, and you can get trenbolone enanthate, which is long ester tren :D

IMO...heres the cycle id run AFTER the diet is perfected.....

1-14 Test Enanthate 500mg/week
1-13 EQ 400mg/week
1-13 Tren Enan 400mg/week

PCT of nolva or clomid on weeks 16-20

OR

1-15 Test Enanthate 500mg/week
1-14 Tren Enanthate 400mg/week
10-17 Winny 50mg ED


PCT of nolva or clomid on weeks 18-22

you would only be injecting about 2-3CC twice a week depending on the cycle ya pick...

posted by thunderterd
ok thanks for the info. one more question...

test is oil based . what about the others.

am i looking at 2 injections on injection day? curious about mixing

posted by thunderterd
i like them both, leaning more towards the winny one.

posted by gymphreak
its all oil based....only water based gear out there really is suspensions and winny...

you can even mix any injectable together....i do it all the time

posted by thunderterd
thanks for your help bro...much appreciated

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