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posted by ericf84

Im starting my first cycle and my buddy has some test and deca for a good price. i was wondering ive heard a lot of shit about deca, should i even take this with the test? also will test alone make me retain a lot of water?

posted by BAJA

I just finished my first cycle using test/deca .You should just stick with the test as deca shuts you down fast .With a good diet and test you will achieve gains .I would leave the deca out for your first and see how your body handles test .

posted by jcvaughn26

if you have the proper PCT, estrogen blockers it shouldn't be that bad IMO. To keep the bloat off you can use l-dex at .5mg eod (it's orally ingested). You can find that on research chemical webpages for around 30 bucks low price and 55 spendy for 30ml/mg bottle. If you are worried about getting shut down hard consider HCG at 500ius 2x a week. Test alone you will achieve good gains with proper diet and training, just thought I'd give you a little more to chew on.

posted by ericf84

thanks for the advice, and i was contemplating, since i do have some extra weight maybe, instead of test, doing a winny/deca cycle. would this be a bad idea for a first cyclekeep in mind that money is not an issue as my friend made an order and had a lot of ppl back out so he is giving me a killer deal. he just came off a winny/deca cycle. should i stay away from deca? would winny by itself yield any good gains?

posted by jcvaughn26

That's not a good cutting cycle at all IMO. Test should be the base of all cycle and build from there.

posted by ericf84

ok thanks. ive got a 10 ml bottle of test (250mg/ml), so how should i take this over 10 weeks? my friend told me to do it twice a week, .5ml at a time, does this sound right? also for pct i was going to use hcg, any input on when, how often and how much of this to use? and lastly, ive heard starting nolva about midway in the cycle is a good way to lower the estrogen. thanks in advance for the advice.

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