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posted by canibalistic_js

Anyone? I'm looking for my second cycle after my pct. What to take for mass and cutts?

posted by gymphreak

yo....time on = time off....time on is including PCT...so if you are on aas for 12 weeks, and 4 weeks of PCT, thats 16 weeks, you must take minimum of 16 weeks before you start up a new cycle....

posted by canibalistic_js

I was under the impression that after pct I can start the new cycle but I guess not.

posted by TomSizeMore

Gymphreak, doesn't it stand true that if he gets his bloodwork done and everything is back to normal after 1 week of PCT, he is good to go back on cycle? Why the need for such a long period off if all systems are back and fully functional?

My next cycle is going to be 25 weeks provided by bloodwork checks out o.k. I am going to be getting bloodwork done every 4 weeks throughoutt the cycle. So, as long as my systems are going o.k. Why the need for less? I see it as just not fully benfiting from the use of AAS. Afterall, you are going to see the major improvements at around week 12-15 anyhow, so why stop when things are just coming together?

posted by Greggorial

Good question !! And just think I thought you were an American eh .... :laughing:

All joking aside I would like to her that ansewr as well it make perfect sense if all in check then why should time on = time off. Also why do BB cycle year round with no time off.

posted by gymphreak

well, basically even if your system is recovered after a cycle, you still want to get the body accustomed to the newly acquired weight, and your natty test levels WILL not be normal after 4 weeks after a cycle. Generally speaking, your body has been jacked up with hormones during a cycle, then it goes into recovery phase as you are doing PCT, which is the crucial point of the body to allow it to get it's natural balance back in order. And, you want to take time off between cycles, so that your body can do the following:

1) get adjusted to the newly acquired weight naturally via diet and CNS
2) tendons and ligaments need the time to regenerate and strengthen/heal up from the abuse while on cycle
3) and lastly, you need to learn how to support the weight diet wise and learn how to maintain it....

If a person is going to continuously do cycle after cycle after cycle with no time for optimal recovery, then why not just stay on aas for the rest of your life? chances are that you will just end up crashing severely at the end, due to the fact that you DO not know how to maintain the weight via diet, the brain and body will want to get rid of the excess weight FAST, so itll enter a severe catabolism cycle, and lastly your natural test will be supressed to the extend that itll take so long for it to be 100% back to normal, that you will crash if the proper steps are not taken, and i can guarantee that most of you dont have 10+ cycles under your belt and enough experience to recover 100%.

Pro bodybuilders are on aas year round because they are so far beyond their genetic limits, that if they actually come off, they just simply will lose mass...bottom line. Also, they have the genetics that allow them to recover well from streneous growth of muscle/training.

posted by canibalistic_js

I knew that...LOL

posted by canibalistic_js

Ok, I see...seriously. I have noticed I have lost some coordination, normally I could stop on a dime and turn etc. but now I'm leaning down instead of bending, among other things. I'm also noticing myself going for pain relievers more frequently.

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