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posted by Logic

Hi all

im hoping you can help me with my 2nd cycle which starts on 01/01/2006.

here's what i was planning

wk1-4 dbol 30mg
wk1-10 sust 500mg & decca 400mg split mon/thur (last decca inj thur of wk9)
wk1-13proviron 25mg ed for bloat (cant afford moon face syndrome)
wk3-13nova 10mg ed for gyno (can be prone)
PCT - 3weeks after last jab , clomid at usual 21 days (300,100,50)

what do you think of this? should i make any changes?
i only have the above meds and cant get any others so have to work with them
also i have loads of HCG, as after my current cycle i had a terrible time on PCT (really down and no interest in anything-training included, for first two weeks of PCT)
i have been informed the HCG might make it easier on me the next time
can anyone suggest how to work some of it into my PCT as i havent got a clue due to the amount of conflicting expert opinions on HCG found on the net!

thanks in adavnce for all your time and help

Logic

posted by TomSizeMore

Personally, I would hold off on the nolva until you notice sensitivity in your nipples. With the low doses that you are taking you may not even need it at all. I personally don't care for Clomid either, I think it's a waste of money and haven't had good results with it bringing the "Boys" back. HCG is the way to go. I would run it at 1500iu 3x a week on weeks 4,8,12 and again on week 16. This should be just the right dose as not to mess with your natural HPTA.

Everything else looks good IMO, too bad you can't get a hold of Arimidex, I like that 100x more for fighting the bloat while on Deca or Tren.

posted by Logic

thanks TomSizeMore for your post and advice,
agree with the arimidex but cant get it here for love nor money :(

if i change to use the HCG the way you have stated, can i then drop the clomid PCT altogether?, or does it still need run in some shape, form or fashion? ie lower dose , shorter period or nova instead?

thanks again

posted by TomSizeMore

IMO, just drop the clomid, it has done little to nothing for me personally and i have used it solely just to test it out. However, once I added the HCG, my boys dropped like a bull hitting puberty.

I've read a lot on Clomid and can't seem to find the benefits of it.

posted by Logic

thanks again TomSizeMore, much appreciated

posted by Patrick_Bateman

Stop the proviron in week11, other than that it looks good to me.

posted by TomSizeMore

^^^ haven't seen that name in a long time, where you been Patrick?

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