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posted by Patrick_Bateman

Did a 8 week test and deca cycle ( 400mg each) droped 12 lbs of fat and put on 15 lbs of muscle. that cycle ended 10 weeks ago now I'm thinking of running a 10 weeker in about 2 weeks.

I was going to run 1000mg test and 600 deca but have been thinking of cutting the Test to 500mg and doing EQ at 800mg with it....basically becuse of gyno problems when I go over 500mg.

so here is what I was thinking

1-10 Test cyp 500mg
1-9 EQ 800mg
1-11 arimidex .5???? not sure here, never used it before
6-12 HCG 500iu 2x a week....ending when I start PCT

pct 14 days after last test shot
40/40/20/20 nolavadex

posted by Storm

IMO anything above 400mg a week with deca is a waste..Good for th joints at that dose and that is about it more is not better with deca...

posted by TomSizeMore

Drop the arimidex and go with Nolva, you don't have any androgenics and it will be a complete waste of money.

I like everything else, but I would run more test since I know you have cycle experience. Plus kick start it with D'bol for at least 3 weeks, you don't have to carry the bloat if you don't want to. That is where the arimidex comes into play. .5 2x daily keeps the water off of me.

posted by Patrick_Bateman

Last cycle I ran 20mg Nolva the entire cycle and that kept the gyno away....but I still felt a little itching.....so I thought Arimidex might work better or maybe running both??

posted by ShuttaLCD

Have you thought of useing a Transdermal? for gyno?

Just a thought...

-Shutta

posted by Patrick_Bateman

What is a Transdermal???

posted by Storm

It's when you get a tansvestite to suck the tissue out of your nips when you have gyno...

posted by shortz

Any time you run Eq or deca, you should do atleast 12 weeks. They take a while to kick in. The best results I ever got with deca or Eq before was on a 16 week cycle. Also, 800mg of Eq is pretty high if you haven't used it before. Try 600mg first. Anxiety seems to be a big side effect for me with high dose Eq to the point that I could kill someone. Backed it down to 500 and I was fine.

posted by canibalistic_js

Bump shortz, 400 was good for me but IMO run it for 15, 12 minimum. I had awsome pumps at that dose, good strength gains and little water retention. Took 4 or 5 weeks to kick in, if I remember correctly; so, you will have results for 10 solid weeks. 800 is high but how big are you? How many cycles?

and you can get arimidex cheap from a research chemical place for about the same, maybe a little more as nolva. Idex is the best. No need for both, it's a waste.

posted by Storm

Well now with arima and nolva the key is to use as little as possible at least with the arima and the true ant-e..Nolva is not a true ant-e guys resaech and and learn it does not effect your estro levels like the others it just occupies the space where the conversion takes place..

That is why if you do get a small lump you can take nolva in hugh does and shrink it away as long as you catch it early..Now to me if your runing high dose test a good mix is .25-.5mg of arima EOD or even m-w-f and nolva at 10mg m-f...

Using to much arima or any of the true anti-e can affect the strength of your cycle b/c not enough estro is not good for balance..I try not to use any anti-e unless sighs start ot show then I start with the nolva first..I do use alot of anti0e come contest time since that is when they are most usefull..Now go run along and play...WITHMYBALLZ!!

posted by canibalistic_js

(Lisp) Yes, sir!

Anti-e's = Less natural GH

posted by shortz

Tamoxifen and clomiphene are still considered anti-estrogens. They are in the same class of drugs which are known as SERMs. Tamoxifen has been used in the treatment of breast cancer because it is attracted to more breast tissue. They are weak estrogens that occupy the estrogen receptor.

Arimidex is also an anti-E, but is in a class of aromatase inhibitors, or AIs for short. These actually stop or slow the production of estrogen, stopping the problem from the beginning.

So, the term anti-estrogen is really a loosely used term and really refers to all drugs that have the same end result, just with different mechanisms.

posted by Patrick_Bateman

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posted by Patrick_Bateman

Started today, this is what I'm going to do
1-12 Test 400mg
1-10 EQ 600mg
6-11 Tren 1cc EOD
20mg Nolva entire cycle

PCT 60/40/40/20 Nol

posted by shortz

If you can, try to get enough tren to run for 10 weeks. At week 6, the gains are hitting pretty nice. I have heard guys saying they even have great results all the way up to 16. Just be sure to keep the dosing at no more than 100mg EOD, as the sides may start getting to you at a higher dose for that period of time.

posted by Patrick_Bateman

I only have enough for 6 weeks, plus I thought it was hard on the body????

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