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posted by tknight4305

Winni-V: Any one use this????
How should it be cycled?
What else would i need with with it?

Any other advice will be appreciated.....

posted by AMERFOOTBALL

a good diet first and foremost, test, bodyfat already under 12% to begin with.

posted by tknight4305

Im pos my BF is under 12, prolly around 10. Do I have to run Test with it?

posted by CUTS

test would be good

posted by yungriff

hey guys. i just got MONTH CYCLE OF THE TRENBOLONE 100 AND I STARTED IT LAST WEEK. I WAS WONDERIN HOW LONG IT TAKES TILL I WILL START SEEIN RESULTS. I EAT A SHIT LOAD AND I WORK OUT FOR AN HOUR EVERYDAY EXCEPT ON SATURDAYS. AND HOW OFTEN SHOULD I SHOOT UP? IVE BEEN DOIN 1CC EVERYOTHER DAY.SO YEA ANY FEEDBACK WOULD BE SO HELPFULL THANKS ALOT

posted by CUTS

start your own thread

posted by tknight4305

What if i dont take Test??

posted by CUTS

results wont be good. why do you want to take it anyways?

posted by tknight4305

I was jsut askin...i know someone that took it without Test and got fairly good results.

posted by president_fad

you and cuts should be friends.

posted by tknight4305

Im not really wantin to take Test right now anyway cuz im only about to be 19. What kind of side effects with the Winni-V have?

posted by CUTS

well im 19 and im using gear so i cant really tell ya not to use it. if you were going to do a first cycle i would do test 500mg/wk. dont waste your time on winny for your first time. 1st time is always the best!!

posted by tknight4305

So are you sayin just do Test alone for the first cycle?

posted by CUTS

yep. your first cycle is going to be the best so why waste it on something like winny? plus you dont need it. persoanly i would only use it for a bb show.

posted by president_fad

dude youre 150lbs, youre a moron if you cycle.

posted by tknight4305

Do you think Test Cyp. would be good for a first cycle?

posted by CUTS

yea test cyp would be great

posted by tknight4305

i weigh 160 now which is not much of a diff.....i know im not at my natural peek but i need to put on some mass...and i do have a good diet and trainning which helping but its hard for me to put on mass

posted by CUTS

how tall are you?

posted by tknight4305

about 5'8

posted by president_fad

y just do test, id do like 5 compounds.

weeks 1 -16 1gram test cyp/week
weeks 1-2 anadrol 50mg ed
weeks 3-4 anadrol 100mg ed
weeks 1-16 deca 500mg/week
week 4-19 hcg 500iu mon/thurs
week 8-12 dbol 50mg ed
week 17 test prop 250mg/week
week 18-19 500mg/week

start pct 3 days after last prop shot

week 20-22 100mg clomid ed
week 23-24 50mg clomid
week 20-22 20mg nolva
week 23-24 10mg nolva
week 20-24 .25mg l-dex

posted by president_fad

thatll put some mass on you, hit that up. Bet youll gain like 40 lbs.

posted by president_fad

http://bbforums.com/showthread.php?t=4694

1 month ago you said you weighed 150, so that means youve gained 10lbs in a month, doesnt seem like you have much trouble gaining weight to me.

posted by tknight4305

I know that....that was before i changed my diet....this is just my 8th week back in the gym in months....

posted by president_fad

so y would u cycle when uve gained 10lbs in a month?

posted by tknight4305

I know that wont happen every month..

posted by AMERFOOTBALL

lmao. 5'8 160 @ 19 yr old thinking of gear?!? you gotta be kiddin me. go eat right now.

posted by tknight4305

damn thats funny fats ass...y dont you go stick your finger down your throat RIGHT NOW..........

posted by Storm

Well he is right your on the wrong path just like many others so you will have to deal with comments like that as you won't have the respect of those that did the work and did it right..Sorry just part of the decision you made something you will have to bear..

posted by tknight4305

I havent started anything yet....i am wanting to know the effects of starting gear a young age??

posted by Storm

Well first and formost you will not have a good natual base which is really the most important thing..It is all about knowing what you can do natual learning your body doinng the hard work to get there..

If you do that it will show do a search on my handle I have said this so many times it makes me sick..I just posted about this a few days ago in another thread..

Plain and simple you are to young you don;t have much exp in the gym or with eating so doing gear is not the answer...I can promise you if you really try hard for the next 3 years and bust your ass to build your body the best you can natual and keep learing baout gear as you do when you do get o gear it will be that much better..

Go against the grain buddy don;t be a follower of these gutless wannabes who jump on gear before doing the work they are a dime a dozen and 80% big head blowhards so do some reading and try to make the right choice not tryin to hold you back from anything trying to make what you can becomoe that much better...

posted by president_fad

take it from me, sumone who made the mistake. DO NOT RUN GEAR AT YOUR AGE. Its ****in retarted and you can make good gains without it.

posted by CUTS

thought you were all natural pres??

posted by Storm

He is now I guess you missed the best post in history do a search on his name you might learn something..

posted by Storm

http://www.bbforums.com/showthread.php?t=4508

posted by AMERFOOTBALL

rather be 245 @ 22% than 160 @ 12% any day bro...WAY EASIER TO CUT 20-30 LBS THAN TRY TO ADD 60 LBS OF MUSCLE! funny how any time i tell you something (even though it is correct) you blow it off and say something about me being fat. my bf is over 20%, but im 1000% ahead of you in this bro.

posted by president_fad

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posted by CUTS

ah i see....

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