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| posted by cheapthaihooker |
| how long does EQ take to start taking effect? would running a 10 week cycle where I stop the EQ at week 6 make any sense (since I'm told it stays in the system for 4 weeks)? or would that be a waste of money? it's my first cycle and I'm thinking either test-e and tren or test-e and eq and I read several times on here while lurking that taking tren for a first cycle is dumb. |
| posted by CUTS |
| heard it takes 4-5 weeks for the full effect. if this is your first cycle i would just run straight test-e for the 10 wks. all the other guys are going to ask this so...how old are you? stats? exp.? diet?? |
| posted by cheapthaihooker |
| 23, lifting for 6 years. 172lbs, 5'10". i have to do some cardio for boxing, but none other than that. my diet is fairly clean, I get about 6 meals a day, a lot of chicken and milk and pasta (i try to keep my carbs up) and plenty of water, naturally. how much could I expect to gain on just test-e? I did halodrol for 60 days and gained 20lbs with 100% of it retained, even though I was supposed to gain like 15 and keep like 10. I'm hoping it was a combo of it being my first time and me being a good responder, so maybe my first REAL cycle will get me better than average results. |
| posted by cheapthaihooker |
| also could anyone explain to me why tren is such a bad idea for a first cycle? just for future reference, so I know. |
| posted by CUTS |
| you never know how much you'll gain. just depends on you, your diet, and your workouts. but just run 500mg/wk or Test e or cyp. |
| posted by CUTS |
| tren is really hard on the body, frequent injections, and it burns. not really a good choice for a first time user. |
| posted by cheapthaihooker |
| ah I see. I've been poking arond the forum some more and I found a sample cycle that I kinda like "2. Beginners Bulk b) Using 2 steroids for larger gains: Test Enanthate Week 1: Monday 750mg. Friday 250mg Weeks 2-10: Monday 250mg. Friday 250mg Equipoise (DECA can be used in place of Eq at the same dose, but for 8 weeks only) Week 1: Monday 600mg. Friday 200mg Weeks 2-10: Monday 200mg. Friday 200mg HCG Weeks 1-10: 500iu Monday and Friday Nolvadex Weeks 1-12.5: 10mg ED or 20mg EOD Clomid PCT: Week 12.5(10 days after last shot of testosterone) day 1: 300mg, 50mg ED thereafter for 6 weeks" posted by dianabol i'd like to be around 185lbs post PCT. think it's possible? |
| posted by CUTS |
| like i said it depends on you on how much you want your gains to be. i wouldnt front load i would just run a straight 500mg/wk cycle for 10weeks. keep it simple man. dont add another compound for now. EQ is a good choice though.... |
| posted by cheapthaihooker |
| yeah i was thinkin the front loading was kinda useless at this point. still i'd like to stack test e with eq right off the bat cause i gotta get some muscle on... i fight like a bitch at this weight (currently in the 160's), but back in the 170's I was doing well... i think I could really tear up in the 180's |
| posted by estray |
| Im sure youll do well with just the test. |
| posted by stnspn_44 |
| I'm surprised no one has asked this. What are your goals? Being a boxer, you usually have to maintain a certain weight. Are you inbetween fights right now? And, have you actually adjusted your diet to gain weight without gear? I'm your same height, so I know you have plenty of room to grow naturally. If you are just wanting to get into the 180s catagory, all you have is 8lbs to go. But I know that you will want to be at the top of the 180s. If you are dead set on a cycle, try test e by itself, and get to 195-200. Then rip up and diet down to high 180s to be at the top of your class. Good luck! |
| posted by CUTS |
| good advice... |
| posted by cheapthaihooker |
| my goal is to put on some muscle. haha. I perform better at heavier weights, so I might as well get jacked. i'm mostly interested in EQ for the appetite stimulation, that would really help me pack some mass on. but if I get one bottle of EQ that'll be roughly double what I need for a cycle. So maybe I ought to save my money. a bottle of test e would give me 10 weeks. what do ya'll think? I know I should "take it easy" my first cycle but the appetite stimulation effect sounds really good. and just for reference, how much would one expect to gain on 10 weeks of test e, on average? and how much of that would be retained with good PCT? |
| posted by CUTS |
| i get hungry on just Test...as well as everyone else here i bet. |
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