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posted by vtamh

1. I was recently on a cutting diet meaning 350grams of protein, and less that 50g of carbs a day. I am 177 and was getting nice and lean. My question is that i just started my second cycle of Test-Deca-D-bol. should my diet change and how so. Remember that i dont want to overeat for summer time reasons, but want to get the most of my cycle.

2. I have more Deca than i need for this cycle, after this cycle can i use the deca by itself, or do i need to wait for the other two later on.....

posted by estray

To answer 1, it depends on your goals. If you want to put any sizeable mass on you gotta eat more. Thats not a good cutting cycle so you might as well. Youll probably get some good bloat off that cycle too. Id switch the deca for EQ if you can.

2. Dont run deca by itself.

posted by Smallguy

liek estray said it depends on your goals for the cycle if your trying ot cut still u pick the worng compounds.

posted by vtamh

So i should bulk up with the cycle and then lean out later......

posted by estray

Probably. Just be ready for the bloat. You can add proviron and thatll help some. Really id scrap the deca. just run the test and dbol and bulk.

posted by SMBLSBGARMS

I hate deca! Screws up my d**k and that's about it! lol I don't know why it's so famous. At least for me it sucks!

posted by jcvaughn26

I hate it too, but that's because it's the only thing that made me get signs of gyno, never got full on, but if I wouldn' t have stopped deca and taken some ancillaries I would have had some D-cups. :D

posted by brsett

Apparently, its good for the tendons and more potent than Equipoise (at least according to mesomorphisis, some of that info is a bit old though, so maybe not thought to be true nowadays).

posted by estray

And the rave reviews for deca continue to roll in.:laughing:

posted by SMBLSBGARMS

Funny how you say "steroid" and average Joe thinks Deca. Deca should be used only in rehab hospitals IMHO.

Say "steroid" to me and I think Test, Dianabol, Anadrol :thumbs:
Lift hard and heavy till you puke or get off MY bench:fu:

posted by canibalistic_js

I love deca and I harldy get gyno from it but my dick was confused when I often performed. Either way the pumps are amazing.

IMO if your going to bulk wait untill you can give it 150% because if your trying to cut for summer but some clen/ECA and maybe a low dose of test sus. Either way

posted by LukeVTS

you may hate DECA but wait till your joints start to hurt ;) But yeah aparantly off one shot of DECA you get 100% testicular atrophy if not on something to prevent it. scary.

posted by SMBLSBGARMS

I've heard from some that Deca's good on the joints but then the heavy androgens bloat me up pretty good and I'm careful to use perfectionist form and not try to set powerlifting records while I'm jacked up. At least so far I have no joint probs. 'Course, that could mean I'm not strong enough yet!:aah:

posted by canibalistic_js

Luke I would lvoe to see this box of cherrios you read that off of. Either way Deca is good for the joints, which is why the gentlemen stated previously that it should be primarily used for rehabilitation.

As a matter of fact I have only seen research work relieveing people of their joint pains and I am living proof, with my knee.

posted by LukeVTS

cherios gives steroid info? and ive been missing out with weetabix for so long....

posted by LukeVTS

wasn't sayin it was rock hard proof. i said thats what i've heard. off just 100mg shot of DECA caused a total (100%) reduction of natural testosterone levels, and it took roughly a month to return those testosterone levels to baseline.

posted by SMBLSBGARMS

Hence the pee-pee problems. lol
Kills your testosterone, but replaces it with a poor substitute.

posted by LukeVTS

ye ive seen graphs for experiments done with deca. after 100mg natural testosterone levels just flew down! i think pee pee problems are also down to how much water retention you get from deca too.

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