First Cycle

Important!! The following is a text only archive!
For full features; Go to First Cycle

posted by H.B.L.R.

A friend of mine has been doing some reading on AAS. He found that all AASs have sides. But that there are supplements u can take to combat sides. He chose to base his cycle on fina, the best AAS out there, and made a (Spider Chart) of sort. To both stack and help sides of fina. He thinks its too much but nesessary. Does this seem about right.

Doses not yet established:
Fina- main base
HCG- to combat shrinking nuts
Nolvadex- to combat gyno

Test-Prop- adjuster and to help with fina dick
Arimidex- should be used with Nolvadex and Test-Prop

HGH- orals, for general health and fat loss

Dianabol- recommended as a stacker with fina, but this might just be too much

He chose fina cuz of its rep. and test-prop cuz of its, some but lower ester to get more roids from it. HGH he wants to help recovery and fat loss. Dianabol is a stack for bulking. Is there other advise for him.

posted by estray

Any other advice? Yeah, scrap that whole cycle. It sucks for a beginner. A long ester test like enan or cyp is all you should do. You got so much shit in there if you start getting sides youll have no idea what drug is causing it. Not to mention the amount of injections every week. Tren is a great steroid, just not for a beginner.

posted by H.B.L.R.

Ok, so u suggesting just cycle with test with a longer ester
and no stack?

posted by H.B.L.R.

cuz thats against what I have learned

posted by estray

Yes and thats what everyone here is gonna tell ya.It doesn sound like you have a very good grasp on how this stuff works. There would be no reason to run dbol with test prop. Its a short ester and kicks in right away. You usually run dbol for first 4 weeks with long ester test so you still get gains while waiting for test to kick in. You can use the HCG if you want to and you def wanna have nolva around. But I would def say no to tren or test prop. Also you dont mention pct. what are you gonna use for that?

posted by H.B.L.R.

someone said masteron and dbal

posted by jcvaughn26

no not a good cycle IMO. test only is a great cycle. I would recommend it to a newbie and a vet adjust the dosage accordingly and the type of ester if you want. Test should be the base of all good cycles IMO.

posted by H.B.L.R.

Damn!! I really wanted to use Fina. But **** it I asked for advice and im gonna play on it. Ill read and learn more before starting. lol I almost ****ed myself up.

posted by H.B.L.R.

One final Q can masteron really help with gyno and shrinking nuts? This is a must know Q.

posted by Storm

Where the hell are you getting your info b/c you are so wrong on so many levsl with what your saying.

posted by bignready

only test e or test c 500mg a week for 10 weeks.keep nolve in case of gyno.have nlove ans'or clomid for pct.that's it. eat alot and train hard.don't worry about these other ones until your more experienced.in fact i wouldn't even do this cycle till you read up on it more.hormones are great stuff,but if you don't use em wisely you will **** up your body for life

posted by EL2

Another, "I need this info for my friend thread", Afraid of getting flamed or too lazy to do proper research?

posted by estray

Read the profile in the anabolic section for masteron and tell me if it sounds like it does either of those. In case you cant find it, heres the link.

http://www.bbforums.com/showthread.php?t=130

posted by cowcountry

I thought the same thing, but in his defense it more sounded like the *cough* "friend" *cough* approach as to him actually being serious in thinking we would think it was for his friend.

Anyhow, How old are you and how long have you been lifting???

posted by AMERFOOTBALL

this is crazy. first off you tried playing the friend game. then you go on to list crazy info. im not flaming you, i just think this is funny.first off, what are your stats? age, experience, hieght weight? then what exactly do you eat everyday? then what does your training regime look like?

posted by H.B.L.R.

YEAH! Lets all talk about shit that can get us locked up? You never know. For all I know u can be a pig. We cant get locked up by having knowledge dick.

posted by estray

Take it easy. No one ever got locked up for talking about steroids in first person. No need to use the "friend" route. If its for you just say so.

posted by H.B.L.R.

Im 21 and been lifting for ~6 years but it was for football, soccer and wrestling. Im trying to get into bodybuilding. Im fit just not bulky.

posted by H.B.L.R.

Well spenca. I want info from peeps that know. He doesnt give advice just talks shit. He doesnt want to help then tell him to stfu.

posted by estray

Ok then. You should spend some time working on your diet before you start taking anything cause if its not right, steroids wont help you at all.

posted by Storm

Well you went form saying your friend to "I really wanted to use tren" so you switched it yourself there pal..Again your info your posting is off mark so where ever your doing your readng it is wrong yes we are in the know so don;t beat aorund the bush tell it like it is..

read the board you will see very fast we playa round alot but questions and info gets answered and answered right no bullshit..So you can keep up and learn or stfu yourself.

posted by H.B.L.R.

If u are really asking.
Im 21, been lifting for ~6 years , ~5'7", ~150-155lbs, bench ~250-275mx, I eat ~5X a day try to eat ~150 gram or more of ptn with meals. daily. monday do all upperbody then box for 1hr fast and hard with situps every 5min. tuesday lowerbody then sprint for 1hr with situps every 5min. Rest wndy. Strip thursday and friday same routine as before. Rest satu, sundy. I get stronger just not bigger.

posted by estray

Well he knows his shit and obviously he can smell a load of it a mile away cause he was right about you.

posted by H.B.L.R.

Bitch. Again with useless shit this aint the view dont start drama u dont want to help then dont the only whos been helping is the estray guy

posted by H.B.L.R.

u guys seem to know your shit but all u say is go read this go read that, instead of recommendation or your own experiences thats what i want

posted by Storm

Did you just call me a bitch?? Your the one who doesn;t know jack fckn shit I explined what you can do it is about resersch so if you want to keep acting like your are I can gladly show your ass out..Up to you mouth off again and your done or back down and you casn learn everyting you want to here..

posted by H.B.L.R.

Ahahahaahah. Yes I called u a bitch. u dont like it fck off

posted by H.B.L.R.

Im here to learn but i dont need shit from u

posted by Storm

Um no I will just ban you little patheic dumbass bye bye...

posted by estray

If we tell you what to do, then you havent learned shit. Steroids are nothing to take lightly. Besides, would you stick a bunch of stuff in your body just cause someone told you. I spent 8 months reading and learning about this stuff b4 i ever picked up a needle. We just want ppl to show some respect for the drug. It can be dangerous in the wrong hands. We have a great section here with all the drug profiles. spend some time reading them and then come ask questions.

posted by estray

What a dumb fckin tool.

posted by Storm

quickly proved he wasn't worth the skin he lives in..

posted by estray

Lmao. Im surprised you let him go that long. I thought he was gone for sure after the bitch comment.

posted by jcvaughn26

That's because we had to do the same thing. I'm not going to sit here and spoon feed you telling you to take this and that and you not know why. **** off if you think storm is being a dick he's very knowledgeable if you give us the impression that you have half a brain we'll give you respect, but if you're a dick get bent.

posted by SO SO

ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!! u dumb ****
and BY THE WAY you didnt say shit estray already didnt
the truth is u dont know jack shit

posted by Storm

hmmm now how did I know your were going to prove me right...

posted by Storm

Hahahah what's wrong "The Lame" gotcha before you could post??

posted by SMBLSBGARMS

Damn! I missed this one! Where the hell do these tards come from?
Everyone's 10ft tall and bulletproof on the internet. Wouldn't it be fun to just once track one down and show up at his house:mad:

Catch the 90lb midget playing in his underwear on his mom's computer.

* Add Your Comment - Ask a question *
Share the knowledge!

+
+
+
+
+
+ ...

+
+
------
+
+
+
------
+
+
+
+