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posted by onswole

Does this mean I get to sit at the big table now?LOL, What's up guys, I just pined for the first time:laughing: of the TE 500mg 10wk. I must admit it was a little intimidating...ok very. But to all the guys out there that are scared of the shot because of pain. There was 0,ZERO, pain~! Ok now my question, I made a rookie mistake and did not pull back to see if I hit a vein or anything. But I saw no blood afterwards. Now I have a little bump (normal I hope). I'm concerned a little about glass from the vial. short version, I broke it, inserted the syringe, took out the test, and then applied the needle. Does this sound correct(probaly No)? I could not Aspirate the fluid from the ampoule with a needle on the syringe. It kept having a reverse reaction. ? I've read every dam peace of lit on pinning, and practice this over 100 times, but when I started the procedure, I couldn't get the fluid in the syringe with the needle on?

posted by Dex

thats weird you couldnt get the fluid in. i never have had that problem in a amp. lump is normal. if you were in a vein, you'd be dead...and if you went through one you would feel it and blood would squirt out. sounds like you did ok but asperate!

posted by SMBLSBGARMS

How small a needle are you using? I like to draw it in with an 18ga. then switch to 23ga. to inject.

posted by onswole

Well it's time for me to sound like an idiot.....I was trying to draw it with a 23guage. But between reading your post and writing this I just ordered some 18Gx1 1/2. That was a oversite on my part:banghead: . I probaly have glass in my ass now.

posted by howlowcanigo

Man you guys are bad influences I've never thought about doing a cycle but I see so many people doing it that its tempting. I just don't know how well that would go over with the navy. At least I have endless resources if I decide to try someday.

posted by illsniggles

my friend in the army got his staff srgt to do it, so basically everyone does lol

posted by howlowcanigo

I'll have to ask around and see whos doing it cause if its enough people I might just go for it.

posted by estray

A 23g needle will draw fine. I just did it for 10 weeks. I even drew with a 28g a couple of times.

posted by regino007

everthng sounds great. Just tip the amp over to its side when you draw the fluid out. keep the pin on..........its best to do so.
Get in the habit to aspirate each time you do so.

posted by Storm

yea no need for the harpoon I use a 22ga 1in and can pull 3ml in less then 30 sec..18ga to me can cork out to much rubber I only use 18ga for mkaing your own gear which I don;t do anymore but when I use to make my own tren I used an 18ga.

posted by SMBLSBGARMS

Storm's right, I use 18ga. for amps just to make sure I slurp out every drop. I use 22ga. for vials because of the rubber stopper. I just got in the habit of using 2 needles for every shot because once while I was drawing out of an amp I think I blunted the point and it felt like I tore a hole in my ass injecting.
Sounds obvious, but if you use two needles draw everything out of the 1st one into the syringe to keep waste to a minimum.

posted by cwshorns

bro- you got the wrong idea, you don't take gear because everyone else is doing it. My suggestion for you is to not take it!

posted by illsniggles

lol, thats the problem, peer pressure, or not even pressure from them, the pressure to not be smaller then them. Reach your natrural potential before gear man.

posted by Dex

nothing wrong with steroids if your doing it correctly

posted by howlowcanigo

No its not like I wanna see how many of the cool kids are doing it, I just don't wanna feel like the only one doing it. I'd feel better about it if I weren't the only one breaking the rules.

posted by cwshorns

once again, my suggestion for you is to not break the rules and stay away from it..

posted by onswole

:D I've heard guys say that before, even might have thought it myself back in the day. The truth is in my case; I feel I have paid my dues. Dude there's a possibility of the cons happening also, along with the pros of using gear. Just be willing to accept the risk because we’re all different.

posted by illsniggles

I understand, i just feel that I'm still too young, thats all.

posted by onswole

My 18g should be here tomorrow so I'm going to use them to draw, thanks for the help. Well I'm going into a 10 week hibernation, talk to you guys in 10 weeks, hopefully with great results:thumbs:

posted by 49erMan

onswole if YOU did your homework you would know what size of syringe to USE.

posted by onswole

Not once have I asked the question "what size syringe to use",

posted by estray

Just curious why you ordered 18ga after everyone in this thread told you it wasnt necessary and that a 22ga works just fine.

posted by onswole

At the time I ordered the 18 ga, only 2 guys had commented and when SMBLSBGARMS suggested drawing with an 18ga, he reminded me that I didn't order any 18ga. It was my intent to draw with an 18ga since putting this cycle together from the beginning (going by the "How to inject steroid" guide). What he said made me think "well that could be the problem I'm having drawing, I'm not using a 18ga like the guide said to", that's why I immediately ordered. Mr. SMBLSBGARMS said 18 and it made sense to me because of the lit I was going by. Now others on the thread said 23, Would I have ordered 18g if I knew this at the time? Maybe, maybe not, but I already had ordered them. O..I also discovered the problem I was having with drawing(fixed). But anyway my 18ga came and things went flawless this time around. But that's what talking to guys with real experience is all about. Now I know it's possible to draw with a 23g with no problem.

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