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posted by jjktown

Hey all. New here. Im 30 years old and just about to start taking a winstrol cycle. I did a cycle when I was 22 of Testex and decca which i think was fake decca. I did 1 shot of each a week for 10 weeks. Got bloated. Barely got stronger. Sucked ass when i came off. Depressed big time. Acne for a year. Great fun! SO i have the winny tabs at home right now and am wondering if i should even bother. I am not a big but most say i am very filled out for someone who has done it mostly naturally. Im lean but not vascular and thats really all i want to accomplish and no i dont want to diet or do tonnes of cardio. Id rather do the winny. haha..The winny i have is IP 45mg tabs. They are small and kind of baby blue. Im kinda bein a fag and am chicken shit to start taking them as i think last time i got bunk shit. Dont wantt to **** with my body. So my question is. Has anyone here done a winny only cycle? And has anyone heard of this brand IP? Any help would be great.
Thanks bros
JJ

posted by Dex

dont do a winny only cycle. nothing will happen. it would be like eating quaters hehe. if youre going to use winny use it with some test

posted by estray

Bump^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Dont do winny only cycle. Should always be done with test. Still, its not gonna give you the results your looking for even stacked. Getting more vascular comes with lower bodyfat.

posted by Dex

and genetics

posted by jjktown

hmmm...interesting feedback. I know friends that have done only winny and leaned out and looked great? almost all i have talked to have seen same results. Again im not looking to get really big here. im big enough. I went from 135 in high school and now weigh around 175 but am told i look to be about 200+ cause im small boned. Makes me look big.haha..anyway..interesting feedback...im not doing a test ever again. all i did was retain water and it sucked ass! dont care if it was real or not. NOt worth the risk to me to get acne again. no thanks. i may just be some one who the shit does not agree with. thanks for the feedbck though. ill see how it goes. took my first tab today.

posted by Dex

uh ok. we just told you not to do it. why did you even ask?

posted by Storm

Hmmm really you have friends that got lean off of winny huh...Well then they seem to some how break all the rules since winny doesn not burn fat bro,,,It is a hardner and cosmetic looks won;t be seen unless your DIET down below the 6% range..

You don't even know what it is suppose to do for you so why take it?

posted by estray

Give him a couple of weeks he'll be wishing he had listened when his joints start aching and he cant get wood.

posted by Dex

why do people think that it gets you ripped? not like it has anything it in that would even burn fat. dumbass

posted by estray

Yep, id have to say winny is probably the most misunderstood of all steroids.

posted by jjktown

hmm..well im gonna give it a try..no i dont knw what it does for me and all i have to go on is what others have told me that have done it. i read alot online as well. you can never know what it does until you try it for yourself as one guy can get sore joints an another wont. didnt realize people get so touchy on here..haha..

for arguments sake..if a few weeks go by and i realize the error of my ways..what would a guy do who really only want to put on like 10lbs of lean muscle...dont really care if it happens in a hurry. and no i cant do it naturally ive been plateaued for years. i may put on like a pound or so every six months but thats a little too slow for me. Id say ive heard primo is a good steady gainer...but wonder knw what kind of response ill get..haha..jk..i appreciate the brutal honesty

posted by jjktown

Ok...ive done enough reading on this forum and others...im stopping tomorrow.. i only took the one 45mg pill today..so im sure ill be fine..haha..so any suggestions other than a test? i was thinkin of maybe going on primo for a few months as ive read your liver values wont change much or your cholesterol ..and it wont convert to estrogen which i had a real problem with before....then off and taking PVL NOX for three months..goin back on for two..then back on the NOX>...repeat for a year or so and put on ten pounds within the year? i think ten more pounds is as big as i want to be. Thanks again guys for the brutal honesty..i appreciate it!

posted by AMERFOOTBALL

the only thing you need is food. you weigh 175 bro...you can't grow cause you aren't eating enough. IMHO, you are looking for the lazy man's way out, which no steroids are gonna be. in your own words, you don't wanna diet down and you don't wanna do cardio, but you want to be leaner and you think winny or other steroids will help with that. you my friend are what we call a moron. There, now that i said that, let me tell you to take that in stride and learn something. good job on stopping the winny. post up your diet, training, and your height and let some of the vets help you grow and lean out as that appears to be your goal. at 175 lbs, unless you are 5' 5", you can definately grow with food and a good training program. good luck bro.

posted by Dex

well im glad you listened to us. im with amer on eating more...youre 175lbs try eating a few burgers a day! go with some anavar later on if you want to gain 10lbs and if youre scared of needles :)

posted by SMBLSBGARMS

Don't fear the needles, needles are your friends.

posted by jjktown

Thanks guys...Amer..my heigt is about 5'10 but im really small boned. I have a 31 inch waste. People are always shocked when i tell them i only weigh 175. most guess around 200. i know dont ask. My problem is when i eat more i just get fatter not stronger. Again i have been making slow steady gains and am still putting on weight slowly. I have put on maybe 5 lbs lean in the last year or so. But before that it was very slow. Maybe 1lb a year. But i have been trainin more and eating better proteins and such.

DEx?? what is anvar? is it a test? i dont mind needles as long as its not every day ..

posted by AMERFOOTBALL

What does your diet look like right now? btw anavar is a mild androgenic and strong anabolic oral steroid. good for building or maintaining strength but not building mass.

posted by Dex

what he said...anavar is the only oral worth taking by itself. if you are going this route, and it looks like you are, if you want to put on 10lbs use some small mg/wk of test. like 250mg/wk of test e for 8 weeks.

but post your diet

posted by jjktown

thanks again guys...so it is a test right? and its oral? do you guys know anything about liver value changes on this drug or cholestorol? again i had a really bad experience with test which is the main reason i wanted winny as its not. i may try again i dont know. im really leary and im pretty happy with the way i look. well not totally. ill post a pic if i can figure out how.

My diet is pretty good. Ive been dieting and losing fat and gaining muscle slowly. I try to eat 6 meals a day. breakfast is usually cereal. THen an hour or so later i eat something with a lot of protein. A thick sandwich with lots of meat and 12 grain bread. THen ill have a protein shake with a bit of fruit and low fat yogurt. then around 4 ill eat maybe another sandwich. then the gym. come home. steak or chicken with some uncooked carrots or brocolli. I eat a lot after the gym. but carrots and broccoli dont fill me up for tooo long. Then another shake around 8 or so. bed around 11 or twelve. gettin lots of sleep. enough that im not tired. Ive been losing about a pound of fat a month. slow but steady. its tapered off lately though. may need to start cardio. every other day or so i will take in more calories. Im not really strict but i should be more so. oddly enough i though a diet like this would make it impossible to gain any muscle but over the past six months i am stronger and leaner. so this diet seems to be working. i am guessing because i upped the protein my body turned to fat to fuel the growth. its been working but im open to suggestions for sure. its so tough cause everyone body is sensitive to differnt things. thanks again guys. im kinda thick headed and I need straight shooters if im gonna listen.
JJ

posted by jjktown

I put a pic in my profile. but i cant get it to go any bigger. i can show you guys better pics of wehre im at but ill theyre too small on here. how do i do it so you can click them and enlarge? this pic is pretty shitty

posted by jjktown

I read all about anvar. I want it! Sounds like its expensive..who knows i may chicken out

posted by Dex

why not eat some eggs and oatmeal for breakfast? or when a quick shake? cereal man? thats like eating air! sandwichs with lots of meat? you need to replace that with real meals bro. i eat chicken and/or tuna 3 times a day with brown rice or oatmeal. i would do some research on a good balanced diet.

save the test for a later date because you need to get your diet down first. in the FUTURE...anavar is an oral but if youre looking to put on muscle mass you need some test cyp or enanathe.

posted by 49erMan

Hey JJ just do a Dbol only cycle, thats cheap.

posted by AMERFOOTBALL

ignore 49er man. that was extra shitty advice. your diet needs work bro. cereal is shit. too much sugar not enough macro's...when i have more time ill come back. check out the diet section..

posted by 49erMan

What, he doesn't want to do any research so I suggested a cycle that would correspond with lack of knowledge and effort.

posted by AMERFOOTBALL

he's learning bro. you learned once. im trying to help him. he posted parts of his diet and we've told him what we think about that.

posted by jjktown

thanks amer. I saw 49ers pic. im more built than him anyways...haha...i may not know everything but I have put on 45lbs of muscle over the past eleven years and ive only done one cycle which did eff all for me anyways. So im pretty much clean. im doing something right. from what you guys are telling me if i get my diet cleaned up i may not even need anything to help me out if its as bad as you say it is. I realized today i snack on lots of fruits and veggies and i take a mega man multivitamin every day. but, alas, im not consistent. yet. my diet may not be as bad as it sounded. but again, hit me with your knowledge!

posted by Dex

i only eat one apple. too much sugar in fruits

posted by AMERFOOTBALL

me too. i eat two apples a day, no other fruit. i like apples for the fiber. i eat almost 2 lbs of chicken breast per day and 1/2 cup brown rice. i drink +/- 2 gallons of water. 5 egg whites two yolks, 2 slices wheat bread. and 3 protein shakes. and im cutting! jj i strongly advise you to do some research in the diet section of this board and then make a diet and post it. let the vets here look at it and help you perfect it.

posted by president_fad

wow, you put on 45lbs in 11 years and youre plateued?? Bullshit..heres a basic principal, if youre not growing EAT MORE. I thought i was platued at 185, im 5'8 btw, then i started eating more guess what??? GO ahead guess!!!!! I gained weight...how much you ask?? Well i was up to 200 lbs at 5'8, naturally too i mite add. So dont sit here and talk shit about members and how you look better, and how youve plateued. The truth is youre a pussy and are looking for the easy way out plain and simple.

posted by Storm

You guys are fruits!! Heheheh a gotta earn respect here if your not willing to travel the road right and bust your ass doing it you won't get any respect fomr the guys that can teach you the most and the right way..FYI

posted by jjktown

anyways...thanks amer...i will do....

posted by cwshorns

Don't hold anything back P.F.:laughing:

posted by cowcountry

I'm tired of reading...

Just go with Primo and the Winstrol you already have. Take for 10-12 weeks and report back with the results. Increase your cardio in conjunction with yyour food intake. If you feel yourself getting fatter, just double up on the cardio.

posted by 49erMan

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