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posted by mARTY

Hi.
Have anyone tried a insulin only-cycle? And are the results better than for example a testosteronecycle? Insulin i more anabolic than testosterone, thats why I ask.
And now I have been on a cycle in 8 weeks, dianabol 30mg ED day the first 4 weeks, and injected Testo E 300-350mg EW. I have gained 21kg so far, and the cycle will last for 4 more weeks. Can I use the slin in a PCT? :)
Sorry if I spell things wrong.

posted by Captainhowie175

and for someone who isnt diabetic, its really dangerous. i think its a bad idea

posted by mARTY

of course, but I will do everything I can do to avoid hypo...I respect drugs, thats why I ask u guys. :)

posted by Storm

Insilin is the most anabolic thing on the planer next to hunger..Plain and simple you had beetr do alot of reading and lay out a detailed plan on how your going tot ake it what your going to eat what you will have around you if you do go hypo..Very easy to get fat off slin b/c it takes a few times to learn what is best for you as it is dif for everyone..Most take in to many carbs in fear of going hypo..Alot of dif ways to take it so again alot of research ned to be done before doing it and even then go small and low does.

posted by mARTY

I understand. Will low dosage of insulin have any good effects on a pct? I will never use as much as 10 UI. I try to avoid Bieffects in the future.

posted by president_fad

dude, your taking something that can kill you. I would know everything about it front and back.

If i were to do it, i would start off at 2iu and go up from there.

posted by canibalistic_js

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posted by Dex

you can use it during PCT or whenver. i would read read and read and keep a 24 pack of gatorade with you at all times

posted by president_fad

gatorade doesnt replenish muscle glycogen

posted by canibalistic_js

Carbs do eat potatoes and a dozen doughnuts bulking right?

posted by Dex

gatorade is for when you go hypo. ya need the sugar so you can also drink pepsi

posted by president_fad

yes, but then there is no point in taking the slin because your muscles will not benefit from it.

posted by regino007

Too much slin= instant death by shock.

posted by JDIESEL

your test dosage is pretty low man....but i suggest unless you're pretty familiar with slin stay away from it cuz it carries a pretty bad side effect....death lol

posted by mARTY

Why should it be so hard to eat some sugar after the insulininjection and when the insulin peaks? I really can't see the problem. And just stay away from fat. And I'm not talking about megedosage. :)

posted by canibalistic_js

Don't take slin bor. Seriously, its obvious your not ready for this and are too lazy to do your own research. Your mega dosing test and other AAS and have no idea what your getting yourself into What's your cycle experience? Years of training and age? Stats? Don't be a tool

posted by mARTY

Can anyone answer my topic? :banghead:Will insulin only give better results than testosterone only?

posted by Dex

everyone is different and it depends on diet and training. no one could tell you but personally i would do test over slin. slin is something i may do later

posted by canibalistic_js

Look kid answer my question and I'll help you out, simple.

posted by canibalistic_js

Here's my thing slin is not something just to take and forget about only to remember once or twice a week injections. Wake up dude, you don't know enough to run it bottom line. Test will not give you the same results as slin. Slin is both anabolic and anti-catabolic but it is not androgenic and also stores fat. I don not recommend it for you PCT at all bottom line, does that answer your quesiton?

posted by 49erMan

slin is best left to pros. enough said.

posted by Dex

ok...let me explain this to you. You take dextrose/simple carbs BUT if you go HYPO YOU NEED sugar. which is in coke and gatorade

posted by 49erMan

also, read this http://bjsm.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/37/4/356
just one example of prob with slin.

posted by dg806

If you gained 21kg ( 46.2lbs) in 4 weeks then you have become very, very fat.

Only an idiot or a pro would use slin.

posted by president_fad

dude, i dont think you know alot about slin, or sugar for that matter. Dextrose is a sugar, and FAR more faster acting than anything you will find in pop or gatorade. That is why pharmacies sell glucose tabs, because they are the fastest. That is why you take PWO drinks with dex when youre on slin, but without because its the fastest acting.

posted by Dex

well then based on that how would it replenish muscle glycogen if youre just taking dextrose? you said sugar/dextrose wouldnt replenish in a previous post but now your saying you need a fast acting sugar...like dextrose. if you go hypo you need sugar, wether its dextrose tabs or some soda. you ever run slin?? i've had a friend run it and he went hypo a few times and he drank pepsi.

"Have all of your supplies with you ready to go before you take your shot. I live close enough away from the gym where I can drive home and shoot at the house. But some of you do not have that luxery. So if you shoot in the car or in the locker room, make sure you have your dex/whey drink. Along with some sweetarts, dextrose tablets or even a soft drink. That way if you do come across a problem (going hypo) you can stop it before it really starts. "

drinking soda can stop you going hypo. thats what we are talking about here!

posted by president_fad

no i didnt say dex doesnt replenish it, im sayin sugar...like that in gatorade doesnt replenish it. It has fructose which doesnt. Sugar from pop will, but it is much slower digesting than dex. I never said it wouldnt stop it, im just saying its not the best choice. And if you do enough research and start with the max carbs and drop them slowly, you shouldnt worry about going hypo realy.

posted by mARTY

Hehe. I'm not fat :P Before I started the cycle i could not see my abs, now I can after 12 weeks. I gained 25kg total, but lost 3 of them.:fu: Gained almost 60kg in bench,40kg in deadlift and 25kg in squat.

posted by AMERFOOTBALL

**cough** Bullshit **cough** Dude no f'in way you gained 55 lbs and kept 52 of them from a 12 week cycle without putting on massive amounts of fat and water. Prove me wrong. post up pics before and after. and then another pic from now with you holding a sign that says "AMERFOOTBALL can eat dick" in your right hand.

posted by president_fad

actually he lost 6.6 lbs but unless he weighed about 120 when he start i dont believe it for a second.

posted by president_fad

132 lbs on his bench too...lol

posted by AMERFOOTBALL

are you kidding me fad? my bench goes up over 300lbs per workout. when i start warming up, im hitting 45lbs and by the time i leave the gym, ive pressed 350 at least once! lol

posted by Dex

oh man...wouldnt that be awesome!! where can i "obtain the juice"?? lol

posted by mARTY

I don't ask you guys to believe me :) But my last injection was almost 4 weeks ago. :) Maybe I loose som weight, but I actually increase my strenght every workout after the aas-cycle :)
I think i gained some fat from the dbol, but my abs got visible :confused: Can anyone explain that?
I'm going to try this cycle again, but I will add deca. I will not post any pictures yet, because I'm a pale norwegian viking. I would have to visit the solarium first :laughing:

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