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posted by mattyboynig

:confused: hey guys please dont ban me or critisize me i am 17 and looking to do a test cycle with proper nolva pct and anything i should know about before ive done loads of research and the only thing im scared of is stunted growth? and has anyone here done a cycle at this age and had issues when older? thanks im 165lbs pump alot...

posted by JDIESEL

uh oh i can see this thread goin downhill really fast.......bro why would u wanna start juicing at 17?? ur 165lbs thats nothing....if you learned how to eat properly and train properly u could make huge gains. stunted growth isnt the only thing u should be worried about.....u have this thing called an endocrine system that is not gonna take a liking to u juicing. also since you have done "loads" of research lay out how u plan to run your cycle and pct. what kind of test, for how long, how much, when r u gonna start your pct, what r u gonna do for it, how much of it.......all of those question u should be able to answer.....by no means am i saying its ok to do it i just wanna see how much research you actually did

posted by mattyboynig

ok im going to get my stuff writen out then post it here and how do u mean train properly would u be able to give me some advice?

posted by dg806

You have no business using steroids.....shame on you.

posted by estray

You should be scared. its very likely consequence at your age. Just hang on for at least a couple more years bro.

posted by mattyboynig

ok thanks for ur suport but what is the worst that can happen? growing wize...?

posted by mattyboynig

like id only be using 1 cycle?

posted by bignready

you can screw up your body's natural test production and feel like girl for the rest of your life.screw up your growth plates and never grow past where you are now.bro there is alot that can and probably will go wrong from juicing at too early an age.do a search on here.there was good testimony from someone who did what you are thinking of doing and he totally regrests it.i just dont have time to find it.maybe one of the mods or bro's here will find it.

posted by JDIESEL

first off anyone who says that is lying....after one cycle youll do another and another....but ne ways but shutting down your natural test production at such an early age you are risking messing with your hormones permanetley...meaning impotence (limp dick) or infertility (meaning no having kids) those to things always scared the hell outta me when i was younger. also i have a friend who had 2 heart attacks by age 22...he started using like his junior yr of high school....i dont know for sure that juicing led to those heart attacks but i bet ya they did.

posted by mattyboynig

lol thanks im going to post a cycle but you guys have helped in changing my mind thanks but like i said id only care about growing but can by one cycle 100% shut down the growth plates?

posted by estray

Yes, thats all it takes.

posted by JDIESEL

bump^^^

posted by bignready

yes it can.will it be worth it?

posted by mattyboynig

who knows id think so at this age its worth it... here my cycle

week 1-8 500 mg test-e wk 9-12 100 mg test e week 13-14 50 mg test-e/wk
and 30 mg nolva dex per day....week 15 nolva 30 mg a day

thanks

posted by president_fad

y taper?

posted by mattyboynig

is it problem wat should i change?

posted by lEx1701

I can't believe you just said that, you only care about it fcking up your growth? Dude!! I know they already said this but do you not understand what a limp dick is?? Do you not wanna have kids when your older or even have sex at all. That right there should have scared you enough. The worst part is is that these are the less severe things that can happen to you, you can do alot more internal damage to other organs. I've been lifting for a few years on and off but have only been a member here for a month now and i was going to juice too and i'm 21. I really researced everything, not like most people who said they did and after the first post there asking a million questions and don't know what pct is or pre loading supps prior to doing a cycle, etc. Your still asking how you should train when that should be the absolute first thing to get together besides diet and getting enough rest. Point is i searched this site and got great info on all aspects of bb including juice and was able to make the decision to hold off until i'm atleast 24 or maybe never on my own instead of posting something like this and making an idiot out of myself. With all honesty we're just trying to help u and don't think for a second we just do this for fun because it's not when you have to see stuff like this on this board 20x a week. They all get the same replies.

posted by mattyboynig

ok the thing is i heer everything u all said and no i dont care about kids or sex..lol sorry but i no im being ignorant guy but i know how to train prop and eat good too i just would like to heer somebody talk about growth? and what can happen but yah thanks

posted by estray

At your age you dont have the maturity or foresight to look ahead 10 years down the road. Saying you wont care just solidifies that because chances are you will.

posted by JDIESEL

first off you havent done too much research cuz tapering is stupid....the test take 4-5 weeks to kick in by only running it for 8 weeks like that your not gonna get the full effect....and just nolva for your PCT and at 30 mg??? cmon bro u need to rethink what your about to do

posted by will power

hey bro think about this, if this is something you want to do (I am talking about bodybuilding) Then doing it now will hurt you in the long run you first need to max out on your natural growth, when i was your age i wanted to jump on the gear. I was 145 5'9" skinny guy. by the time i was 21 i was 210 6'. All you need to do is eat. Now i am 24 been on a year and at my biggest which was 3-4 months ago i was 250 6' OX, dont cheat yourself out of a great body by makeing a mistake while you are young.

posted by Subject117

Im sorry to attack you like this but you sound totally insane. First of all you are a kid who only is thinking at a highschool level ex. you want to fit in or want people to see how big you are and think that you are cool. To say that you dont care about kids or sex in your future is crazy and the kind of thing that I would expect to hear from a kid. Also that cycle that you posted is totally whacked :screwy: for 1 thing and pct sounded about as stupid as your cycle.

Look man do yourself a favor and eat & lift & rest. Take some creatine its good stuff and will help you.

You sound like a kid that is going to disregard what everyone is tell you anyway. So if you are going to do it anyway atleast do some research and do it correctly. Not what some guy in your high school gym told you.:banghead:

posted by JDIESEL

bump^^ trust me bro youll care about the sex sooner or later

posted by mattyboynig

ok thanks boys i think ill wait lol

posted by canibalistic_js

nuff said. What your diet like?

posted by mattyboynig

i eat enought ( and smart) got gainers and creatine and run daily and play hockey every second day but still cant bulk up...?

posted by canibalistic_js

I asked for your diet kid not an "I'm ok here" if it is post it.

posted by JDIESEL

cani he drink 3 weight gainers a day with some chicken his diet is good lol....no bro most people think they are eating right but have no clue what there diet is supposed to look like

posted by estray

If youre doing that much cardio activity, i doubt youre eating enough to gain. Either quit running or in increase your caloric intake 500 calories per day.

posted by mattyboynig

yah i know but thats why id think of test-e because i cant stop training i need size strenth and speed...and ive stoped growing hieght wize says the doctor...

posted by canibalistic_js

Speed and strength why don't you do some cardio and follow it by a front/back training/ front- chest, bi's, abs, quads, back- back, lower back, hams, calves, do like 1 light set and 1 heavy set. When you are no longer sweating slowly add a set onto each exercise. Don't kill yourself only do about a few exercises per body part like 1-3 to start out then add more on as you go. and don't do steroids!!!!

posted by will power

DUDE your 17 you may not grow in hight but there are more things that will grow. dont be a dumb ass. good things come for those who wait.

posted by ccubanliinkpapii

im young too im 21 and i wanted to juice up! and they told me i wasnt even old enough ...im talking about the guy in my hood that sells them! so i can imagine you @ that age no1 proally sell it to u...atleast no1 responsable!...also ..they say when u shoot up ur face deforms a lil bit...u 17 u got a baby face proally.. y u want that for plus ur acne @ that age is gonna b wooooooorst!.... dont do it cuz u aint gonna get laid no more lol!...??

posted by mattyboynig

subject and canni can suck my fat dean...

posted by canibalistic_js

Your really an idiot kid. I'm really trying to do you a favor and help you but you = don't get "it"

posted by Subject117

well we better get a shot at you now cause after you are done screwing up your insides you wont have anything left to suck. The laddies are gonna call you vienna sasuage boy!! have fun :)

posted by JDIESEL

oh geez this thread is gonna get outta control......bro do whatever you think is right nothing we say is gonna change your mind....youll just have to learn the hard way

posted by canibalistic_js

You gay little pecker checker.

posted by mattyboynig

pecker checker?...lol k and '' DUDE your 17 you may not grow in hight but there are more things that will grow. dont be a dumb ass. good things come for those who wait.'' ???? what can go wrong other then not hight????!!?!?!

posted by mattyboynig

like width?

posted by John H

ok matty... lets review what has been said here. your first post asked us not to criticize you, and to help you out. and you specifically asked if anyone knew about things that could go wrong later in life from using steroids. well you got a whole list of things that can go seriously wrong, including man-boobs, sterility, limp dick, and DEATH. we even let you know that you can potentially do the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you want and screw up your growth plates. just because this isnt what you wanted to hear doesnt mean you can reject it. you asked for it and we gave you the truth so if you werent going to listen why the **** did you ask in the first place?

posted by JDIESEL

what he said^^^ bro were just tryin to help ya....theres a lot of guys who started using to early and are paying and regretting for it now....

posted by Crazy_eyes

I have heart problems at 17 buddy, from steroids. so if you think you are remotely ready for this than your body is gonna kick your ass. You dont seem to get it, this will possibly **** up all your body's natural functions. Everyone is telling you otherwise, so why dont you fcking listen? But go ahead jackass, **** up your body and watch with regret as you dont grow, lose anything you gained, **** up your arteries, **** up your natural test production, grow tits, lose your hair, and **** up pretty much everything hormonal related, people can and have died from this shit. So grow the **** up and stop being so ****ing ignorant.

posted by Morgan

I think alot of people on here have got alot more experience than you. you should try listening to them. they aren't lying to you or giving bad advice.

:screwy:

:screwy:

posted by flippin it

lock this thread...its getting outta control and i think it just needs to end right here.

posted by LukeVTS

youre not eatin right then if you've stopped growing. post your diet up. if you dont gain, its only down to not enough calories, period.

posted by mattyboynig

hhm k thanks

posted by JDIESEL

bump^^^ everything has been said no need to keep beating a dead horse

posted by mattyboynig

wait ok one more thing k thanks 4 letting me know but i have a question for the guy who said he has ppl he knows who regret using it why do they regret it? and most side affects are of long term high dose ppl thanks

posted by Morgan

this guy will never get it

<------------do you want to look like him????

:screwy: :screwy: :screwy: :screwy: :screwy:

posted by JDIESEL

bcuz why start doin it before you reach your natural peak?? all your gonna do is make gains that you could make without them at that age......and if you could prove your statement about long term sides only come from high dosages i would love to see it

posted by phantom80

this is the dumbest person i have ever witnessed on any board i have ever been on
he has been warned about what can happen
he might want to ask his doctor what he thinks about the subject
steroids are NOT safe
they are like russian roullette at any age
they are a gamble
it seems to me that this kid is trying to make the jump from house league hockey to a career in it
what he doesn t know is that the CMJHA is implimenting drug testing and if he gets caught he will have a life long suspension set agains him
and yes matt there are certain peole out there from the CMJHA that read this board too
so i think you just shot yourself in the face
i am 40 yrs old and had "little dog syndrome" from the time i was 15 til the time i was about 30
i was not very big
but i used my head
i listened to people
when they (the people on this board) tell you to not use
i would listen to them
i let my body take its natural course
then took some suppliments
in the long run you will be happier
p.s.
i had a friend he was 325 lbs
he took steroids starting at about 18
last year he had a triple by pass surgery
this is the honest truth
not trying to scare ya
P

posted by JDIESEL

thats one thing that you dont wanna do....most doctors will not help ya at all if they find out your using and can have you dropped from your insurance bcuz of it

posted by Dex

your friend had triple bypass because he was a fatass not from steroids

posted by president_fad

ya, your friend was a fat pile of shit. Steroids don tdo that to you.

posted by JDIESEL

and how are steroids like russian roullette?? :screwy:

posted by Dex

you pick needles out of the garbage and buy your steroids from a creepy old man named AMERFOOTBALL in a dark alleyway. Then after when you proceed to leave he pulls down your pants and possibly gives you AIDS....

this happen to anyone else??

posted by estray

Nope, just you apparently.

posted by Subject117

I like pigs feet

posted by canibalistic_js

yukkkkkkkkkkkk f*ckin hill billies

posted by Subject117

:hi: i never actually had one but i thought it would fit in well on this post.

posted by JDIESEL

you know ive been wondering why im a hardgainer....not cuz im not eatin enough but bcuz i got the HIV lol....well i guess the one bright spot of AIDS is gettin GH prescribe to you lol :laughing:

posted by canibalistic_js

do you really? I know a few who are paying 20 bills a kit 10 at a time I guess ya'll hiv people get to run 10ius a day. you getting serano?

posted by regino007

WTF!!???
Why are you even asking this little bro. I know you want to learn and crap but we have a rule here. NO ASKING ABOUT GEAR CYCLE ADVICE IF YOU ARE A MINOR!!!!

You put this board and alot of ppl at risk for doing that. I hope you enjoyed your stay here!!!

posted by Dex

whoa, who has aids? i neeeeeeeeed it!!! haha

posted by JDIESEL

lol thats when you know you got a problem....when your wanting aids to get GH hahahahaha

posted by Juicy J

Back to matts question, dude i was just like you, wanting to juice and get swole and not thinking about anything longterm. I thought i had it all figured out, pct my cycle the works. i felt really good but towards the end started getting chest pains, my tits got puffy, i couldn't even get a boner man. i was f*cked. i am starting to recover just now a year down the road, but u know everything so go ahead

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