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posted by koda

hi guys...i want to thank u all coz i've learned alot from this board.....i've just finshed a short cycle 2 weeks on 1 off 2 weeks on 3 off.....1st day sustaon 500 mg then continuing 20 mg dbol ed......i didin't weight myself but right now i'm heivier.......right now i was thinking on starting a new cycle:

1-2 wk sust 250 mg eod
1-2 wk deca 200 e3d
3-6 wk sust 125 eod
3-6 wk deca 100 e3d
1-6 wk eq 100 e3d
7-9 wk prop 100 eod
7-9 wk winny 25 ed

i'll run proviron 25 mg ed throw cycle & nolva 10 mg

pct will be clomid & nolva.....i don't know if i need hcg or not

what do u think about this cyle....(i now it maybe short for these esters)

posted by estray

Are you serious?

posted by Storm

Cycle makes no sense at all you have long eaters in there and most are only being used for 6 weeks and that is just when they start kicking in not very well thought out..

Try sust 500-750mg a weeks for 12 weeks
deca or Eq not both 12 weeks take out the winny and prop leave in the rest.

posted by Storm

No winny will not rip you up it is only a hardener so unless he gets down to less then 7% bf there is no point in doing it.

posted by Storm

MB winny does not burn fat it is a contest drug..I promise you taking winny at 10% bf and not changing your eating WILL NOT burn any fat off of you..The countless others are juts falling into the winny is a cutting drug as you are..Plus women are much more responsive to winny then men are so leave cycles like this to me I know alot more about this then you do not a flame juts dont need a member wasting time or money when it can be helped.

posted by LukeVTS

winny doesnt make you any leaner. Dont know where the myth came from that its some kind of fat burner or gets you "ripped"

posted by Dex

tweddel deeee tweddel dumb, your cycle stinks worse than my sweaty bum.

posted by Storm

On this case I am not going to PM you since you want to get in on these threads and make your statements then take it to PM why? Look if you going to give advice on here fine but make sure you know what your talking about.

This thread your advice was not right so leave it at that.

posted by LukeVTS

bump that. Its a horrid horrid cyle, and telling someone its good can be dangerous.

posted by cwshorns

I'm not sure you've learned anything from this board yet, by the look of your cycles. Not only does the one you are thinking about doing, not make sense, but what were you thinking on your "short cycle"? Why did you do this cycle? I'm trying to understand where you learned this? You mean to tell me, you ran 1 day of sus and the rest of the days you ran dbol? for 2 weeks? then took a 2 week break and did it again? Why?:confused:

posted by estray

Yeah that had me scratching my head too. And then in the new proposed cycle he cuts his Sust dose in half for weeks 3-6. Why? WHy? WHY?:confused:

The whole thing is a train wreck.

posted by Dex

we know that MB, that wasnt the arguement. the difference of opinions were on the subject of winny being some sort of a "fat cutter" or helping you look harder. it is proven it only makes a difference at a lower BF% and carries the same attributes of a compound such as Masteron. Meaning, you will only see the results of this compound when your BF% is below a certain number.

Amen

posted by koda

so what do u sugest for a 6 week cycle ?.....i've got sustanon & prop &eq & deca & dbol & winny

posted by LukeVTS

lol thats a crazy load of drugs youve got ther. i would probably say just have sust with deca. But you personally. Nothing. Those drugs should have been bought after consulting people and knowing what the hell you was buying

posted by LukeVTS

oh and 6 week cycle?! what the hell??!!! whos does that!

posted by lil bit

Dex, luvin the creativity....who would have guessed you had a softer, more poetic side....

As a side note to this thread, perhaps it should be suggested to those who are unsure of what type of cycle they want to run, how to build a proper cycle, etc, that they research and ask for advice BEFORE investing? Just a thought...

posted by LukeVTS

lol "try our free sample of illegal drugs, if youre not 100% happy, tough, those bitch tits are there to stay"

posted by Dex

hahaha thats good

posted by koda

i was just looking for help....i've done 3 cycles before ....2 of them was 12 weeks & the last one was short......i prefered the short one...i recovered easier from it......with just nolva in pct......but the problem i don't have access for short easters of durablin or eq.....all i want is to add lean muscle with no bloat...

posted by Storm

Ok so we will go there then..No your wrong you said as most noobies who dont know crap about contest drugs said winny would rip you up I defended that with why it was wrong..I also said winny was a hardener that has always been right so please dont go back and chnage it..

PLus you want to try and "assume" he was on a carb lowering diet just b/c he was taking winny? Nice try but pretty dumb to say winny is a cutting drug then you back your statement by saying of course you have to be on a diet..

Dont butt heads with me you will lose I am here to give proven advie from over 15yrs of exp where is yours? Oh yea a few years of exp from higher level pros who taught you..Your advice was wrong on winny being a cutter plain and simple so stop with your game MB I will say it again you want to give advcie fin make sure it is right and you can back it with solid proof saying a bunch of people who take it prove it is lame..

If what you say is right then please xplain to me how winny drops body fat directly..That is your statement that it will ripp you up so explain how that is..Woud love to hear what you know..

posted by Crazy_eyes

Holy shit! Hes not saying that people dont, he's saying that Winny is not directly responsible in metabolizing fat! And sorry but if anyone is worth butting heads with its Storm, the guy has given everyone great advice and knows his shit inside and out. So just let it go, you got backed into a corner and he called your bluff.

posted by Subject117

Someone ran over my bunny with a car.

posted by Storm

Ya like how she is trying to change what was said dont ya Crazy...Just another flash in the pan.

posted by Storm

Who was driving a jacked up Elmur Fudd?

posted by canibalistic_js

Lmao^ Elmur fudd was driving!

posted by Storm

kill da waabbit kill da waaabbit!!

posted by Subject117

lol.... :)

posted by cwshorns

Koda- listen to waht youre saying..."i don't have access to short esters..." but youre asking us to recommend you a short cycle. 1+1 isnt addin up to 2...you get what i'm saying? :banghead:

posted by LukeVTS

cw are you on a cycle? Your fuse is ver short recently. Just calm down. Everything will be ok

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