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posted by S.W.A.T.

I am 18 weigh 70kg (empty stomach) and im 181cm tall.

Been goin to the gym for over a year, eating well and been taking alot of supps (gonna stop using creatine and No-xplode) because i think they dont do anything to me.

Got someone which i know n talk to for a few months n says he can get me 1Letre mixed up, comes with instructions from a supplier. That person has been using this also and he is the one that went from 80kg to 110kg. He stopped using this few years ago and is thinking of starting using them again.

What are the Cons if i start using this (properly [the right way])

I already know that u will say that i am too young.

posted by bignready

gonna do what?

posted by S.W.A.T.

Roids hahah as in steroids.

posted by cosmic-dust

I know the temptation is very tough, I've argued with myself many times about it but decided not to mainly due to the possible effects on HPTA I'm not willing to risk.
It's happened to my friend and without being on, his test levels are way below normal... so low that the doc offered HRT. He went through proper pct and everything but even a year later his test levels barely came back. Training as a natural for him now is pretty much pointless unless he is on HRT. And all of this for what? to look good probably for the girlies? If there is no real reason to go ahead with it then I don't really see the point... are you going into professional sport? are you going to compete in bodybuilding? ..

I don't want to risk HRT at such a young age because it is irreversible. This is the main thing which made me think otherwise.

If you decide to go ahead regardless of what anyone here says, then please read up instead of relying on peoples opinions since you can get very mixed advice. If you can get Anabolics (any edition) by William Llewellyn that would be a good start.

Anyway, you know your too young. I know you can still grow much more without AAS - 1 year training is nothing, 70kg at 181cm tall is very skinny, I think you just need to make more of an effort.

posted by Storm

Biggest con you will never know what you could really have done with yourself natural and when you come off you will shrink back to where your at now..If your fine with that then so be it I dont have any respect for guys who do it this way..Busting your ass for several years not juts one never missing meals or workouts and being natural is the true test to who you are.

This was the 1st year in over 16years I just took a break from training hard keeping up with the meals etc...I trained for 5 years before touching gear and it was ALL around me I set a goal 225 at 10% and I got to it I had never been above 195 when I set that goal so i didnt make it easy can you do the same?

posted by Morgan

whats your stats at now storm?? heigth? any more comps coming? just kinda curious

posted by Storm

I am around 240-245lbs my training has been very sporadic been busy with work and a few other things..I was going to do my state show then go on to the jr usa but I have backed out just not ready.

I have had more time consuming things fill my life and again after thinking it has been 15 yrs solid on training and dieting and eating I deserve a break..I am 5'11-6 and I normally walk around between 240-250 even off gear as long as I am training.

I may do another show at the end of the year and might do nationals just sure I have been wanting to go back to training as an athelte maybe some MMA training cut down to 225 and not carry this weight around.

posted by S.W.A.T.

What are the chances of getting HPTA and HRT??
I have been going to the gym for over 3 years but i started doing it properly 1 year ago.
Dw guys i am just thinking its not like i want to do it :) that is why i came here for your advice and i got great advice thanks.

posted by cosmic-dust

I can't say what the chances are of permanently putting off the axis. More than likely it should return to normal but the risk is always there. I think cycle duration and dosage could also be a contribution.

Just to clarify, HRT is Hormone Replacement Therapy and HPTA is Hypothalamic Pituitary Testicular Axis, if you want to search them.

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