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posted by sittin in iraq

I am trying to get advise on a cycle. I just started my deca. A friend has mentioned to me that I should add equiposie to my cycle because Im not trying to get really bulky. Im using the deca to get some size but not to over do it which will lead to my next question.

I have been told to add test to my cycle with deca due to my bodys natural shutdown process. My thing is that like I said, Im not trying to just get extremelly big and Im not trying to start taking alot of different things at high doses so im here to get advise on this form the experts.

Now, what I need to know is what kind of doses should I take of test in conjunction with my deca so that Im not loosing all my natural test?
Is it a fact that I wont loose my natural test until i come off my cycle of deca?
If so could I just use test after the deca rather then durng?

But the other thing is this. Like I mentioned. Im not trying to get BB size. Im really just trying to add some size but mainly Im trying to get toned and cut.

So what can you tell me about the equipoise, is it compatable with deca?

any help would be appreciated. PLEASE leave comments that will help me in some way rather then tell me im unexperienced or that i dont know what Im talking about. cause yea your right in some ways ad thats why Im here asking for advise so theres no reason to throw it in my face. I do want to hear from you in regards to this though so please reply.

Billy Jack

posted by Storm

No test is again juts dumb..EQ IMO is much better then deca the two together isnt a real good choice especially without test..Whoever is giving you advice deosnt know shit about gear.

All of it shuts down your endo test including all the test esters..Try checking out the forum that explaines all the different types of GEAR.

posted by Storm

Oh and juts for you info to get big you have to eat big and train heavy it isnt as easy as take more gear and you get big..I can promise you take 2,000mgs of test enath a week and dont eat 500g of protein a day and 5,000 cals and tain hard and heavy you wont hardly grow at all..Like I said there is a process and eating the right way is more important then the gear it is only an aide.

posted by bigtimestud

I think eq is always good but you have to run it for a long time ex:10+weeks
if your already taking deca add eq and maybe a oral like dbol and some a-bombs

posted by bigtimestud

couldn't have said it any better ITS WHAT YOU EAT keep that diet strict and pound that food like a beer at a party

posted by sittin in iraq

My question is still in the air. I am not trying to get huge, Im trying to add a little muscle and get cut, thats why I was asking about wether or not I should still be trying to eat 5000 cals a day. thats alot of food and I dont want to just start eating that much if the main purpose is to get bulky. And AGAIN I didnt say I wasnt going to NOT use test in the cycle. I asked for the appropriate times to ue and the right dose for my goal.

IF YOU WANT TO HELP THEN READ THE QUESTION AND THEN REPLY, STOP JUST JUMPING ON THE PAGE AND START TYPING BULL SHIT. ITS GETTING CHILDISH. STORM YOU ANSWER NOTHING AS FAR AS MY QUESTION WENT.

I AM LOOKING FOR AN EXERIENCED ADULT O ANSWER MY QUESTIONS. IF THIS IS YOU FEEL FREE TO REPLY. IF YOU ONLY WANT TO TALK SHIT. GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

posted by sittin in iraq

If You Would Like To Send Messages To Me Rather Then Post Ont He Board. Feel Free.

posted by Storm

I answered alot kidd so if you look back at you saying I dont want to get bulk my answers lies within saying it isnt that easy to bulk up or are you just a genetic freak?

SO again I will ask you what are your stats you have not answered that we dont believe around here you should do gear unless you have reached a certain point i natual training if you dont like the sound of that then please GET THE **** OFF MY BOARD.There is a ton of info on this board I run so if your doing so much research then why the hell do you keep asking dumb questions?

You havent answered my question so until you do I wont help you anymore and I can promise you nobody on here knows more then me period so stop with the childish crap yourself..

posted by bignready

the problem is no one is giving him the answer he wants to hear.because he is worng.so he will keep asking the same questions until someone validates the answer he WANTS to hear,not the correct answer

posted by Morgan

no kidding the guy says noone is giving him advice when every single person who has replied has given him advice... NOT TO USE AAS AT SUCH AN EARLY STAGE OF TRAINING.:screwy: like you said he just wants someone to tell him what he wants to hear but the MAN (as he put in another thread) is sounding like a little kid who isnt getting his way. some people just dont listen to sound advice from more knowledgeable people ( not necessarily me but some of you who really know your sh!t):banghead:

posted by cwshorns

seriously billy jack! you're starting to piss people off! we have no intentions of "dogging" you, we are trying to GIVE YOU SENSIBLE ADVICE and YOU DON'T WANT TO F-ING HEAR IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT! Perhaps you should just stick to asking your dumb ass friend all of your questions, seems he's got the answers you want to hear. So until you're ready to accept the fact you NO NOTHING about training and you need to stay away from gear, STAY THE F*** OFF THIS BOARD! No one is going to give you the answers YOU WANT TO HEAR! F***!!!!!:banghead:

posted by sittin in iraq

Guys seriouslly. It has nothing to do with me hearing what I want to hear. The ONLY thing that Ive said NO to was the fact that Imgoing through with it. Ive already started my cycle of deca. Now all I need to know is some basics on dosages and time frames for test to be added. Wether it would be ok to add test towards the end of my cycle when my natural test would really need the help, rather then going hand in hand with the deca. Guys you can tell me all day not to do it but that fact wont change. Yes Im doing it. So could you instead of letting me do it wrong. Just give me that little bit of advise so I can at least go in the right direction.

If not the no prob. Ill find another board if you dont want me here. Ill understand either way. But I am only here for advise. Ive not shot down your advise on previous questions. Im no understanding where youve gotten that from. Storm answered a few things for me but left the 3 questions Extrememlly in the air. From what I can see. Storm is a very knowledgable person on this subject so you saying Im not listening is far from the truth. I want the advise. I just DONT want you to keep telling me not to use. I want advise that will help my gains. But the majority of you tell me not to use and that was never my question to begin with. Now those questions at the begining are very important to me. So if you want to answer them then Id appreciate it. If not just reply saying so And Ill move on.

posted by Storm

If you look back I probably answered all your questions including the dose for test what deca is good for and not to use EQ..You want to get tone? Lean? That comes from diet not your gear..

All gear shuts you down when you take it not at the end it takes a few weeks some shut you down harder then others like deca it shuts you down hard I am not a big fan of deca and lie I said before look at the forum where all the dif types of gear are and learn..

IMO your being immature to go ahead and start deca by itself without knowing hardly a thing about gear so think about what your doing you havent told us anything about yourself but some poor eating habits so again gear is an aide so good luck and regardless of what you think your doing it for the wrong reasons and the wrong way despite taking the right doses..

So no stats not eating enough whole food and really not sure your training right great you'll do awesome, have you figured out what your going to do when you come off? Do you have your post cycle therapy in hand already do you know how much HCG or clomid or nolva your going to take? What about if you want to keep taking gear are you going to get bloodwork done to make sure things are going right in your body?

Do you know where to go to get bloodwork done so it doesnt show up on any insurance in case your liver values are high and that red flags your insurance company and your rates raise up? Did you think about any of this before you juts decided to start deca by itself because you know best? I didnt think so..

So now that you have all that to go over and mull in your head try doing some more reading and realize there is a process in doing this right and that is yet to enter your head I hope some of what I said scares you a bit into thinking you might have jumped into this to fast since what you thought you knew just went down to nothing.

posted by csyflt

these guys will help you out slot if you listen!

posted by Morgan

no kidding... this is a family around here. i know this board has changed so many peoples lives its not even funny. i know because i am one of them. the advice to be had here is unbelievable, and the support and friendships are great. you just have to listen and learn. there are people on here that have been through alot and try to share to make sure people dont make the same mistakes themselves.

if there was a smiley icon for a tear i would put it up:D i love you guys:laughing:

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