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posted by tyamont
Hello everyone, as you can see I am new at this and am asking for some opinions/advice on a stack I am thinking about starting. First, I am 26 years old, 5'9", 165, 12% bf, been lifting on and off for 10 years, but have been hitting it pretty regularly the past 8 months. I eat healthy and supplement my diet with creatine and quality protien. This would be my first cycle, and my overall goal is to build consistant quality muscle. I am not looking to "blow-up", just want quality gains in strength and size. I found this cycle on a website, and I did my own research on each individual component. It began as a deca cycle, but I opted to replace the deca with Equipoise due to the Eq providing better quality gains. Anyway, here it is:

wk Eq (300mg) stanozolol (5mg) winny depot(50mg) primobolan (100mg)
1 300 mg 4 tabs p/day
2 300 mg 4 tabs p/day
3 300 mg 5 tabs p/day
4 300 mg 6 tabsp/day
5 1 amp p/wk 1 amp p/wk
6 2 amp p/wk 2 amp p/wk
7 3 amp p/wk 3 amp p/wk
8 3 amp p/wk 2 amp p/wk
9 300 mg
10 300 mg
11 300 mg
12 300 mg

I am also thinking about adding Cytomel 5mcg p/day for weeks 6-8. My first question is directed at the experienced individuals, and is this a good cycle (for me anyway). Second, if so, how should I split up the injections i.e. 100 mg of Eq split between 3 days of the week, etc. Thank you for time and opinions.

posted by A.B
I would keep things basic and run your cycle like this

EQ 400mg week 1-12
winstrol 50mg ED week 1-4 (kick start while EQ gets into your system) week 8-14

this would be a nice cycle. alot of people say you need to add test but from my own experience this cycle is alright.

start PCT a day after your last dose of wintrol, clomid/nolva

posted by gymphreak
dude... That cycle is actually set up very badly...where did you find it? First off, Since its your first cycle, i would just run one steroid, and get adjusted to the effects of steroids. If you dont have experience with individual steroids, and you stack them all for the first time like you are doing, and something backfires, you wont know which steroid that came from......hope you understand what im saying...

Umm...as for a first cycle, i would just get on a nice simple Test enanthate or test Cypionate cycle with a dose of 500mg/week split into two injections/week for about 10-12 weeks. I would keep a bunch of nolva on hand incase of gyno syptoms, and run a proper pct at the end....

Hope this helps

posted by Storm
^^ exactly test at 500mg a week and some nolva on hand maybe even do 10mg EOD...All that shit you won't know what is doing what for you..You have to learn what works best for you and by doing several types you wil never know...

posted by Smallguy
I have to agree with the 2 bros above test only is a good first cycle

posted by tyamont
thanks for the input. Gymphreak, I understand what you are saying pertaining to the side efects / results from each specific component. That is why I posted this, because I didn't even think about that. And that was something I forgot to put in the orig. post, Nolva 10mg p/day through the entire cycle. But anyway, I guess I need to do some more research on Test Enanthate and Test Cypionate, and again ,y biggest concern is to gain quality muscle, not quantity. Thanks everyone

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