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posted by tyamont

Ok, I have decided to heed A.B., gymphreak, and storm's advice and keep my first cycle simple. I am still inclined to use Eq though vice Test Enanthate or Test Cypionatedue due to my findings revealing that the results from both are extreemly difficult to maintain after the cycle has concluded even though both are superior in mass and strenght gains. If anyone has had experience otherwise, I would like to know. So, to keep it simple, I am partial to an Eq / Winny cycle. A.B. recommended 400mg / week of Eq, should I split that into multiple doses throughout the week, or just one dose. It was recommended that the Winny should be administered ED for week 1-4, since this will be my first time, how often should I use the same injection site, and how do I keep it from getting sore. I understand I can use the R/L glute, R/L delt, and the R/L thigh (though I am not looking forward to using my leg, I think that one is going to suck the most). Any insite is appriciated

As far as the nolva, do you think 10mg EOD would be sufficient?

Thanks everyone

posted by gymphreak

Dude....All gains from steroids are hard to maintain and keep after the cycle is done depending on your diet!!!!! Steroids play the smallest role in the equation.

To put on size and so forth it goes like this.....
1) FOOD
2) PROTEIN
3) REST/RECOUPRATION
4) TRAINING
5) STEROIDS AND POST CYCLE THERAPY DONE PROPERLY

To answer your question...i would not run EQ for a first cycle. WHY? because test should be a base for all the cycles IMO when you first start off untill you are an experineced vet in the steroid game. Test itself is produced naturally in your system, thus you will grow amazingly off 500mg test alone! My first test only cycle, i put on a whopping 30+lbs!!
As for EQ, I love EQ, but i really reccommend you to do a test enan or cyp cycle. As i said before....ALL STEROID INDUCED GAINS ARE JUST ABOUT EQUALLY HARD TO KEEP pending on diet and PCT methods.

Do a 500mg/week Test cycle, with proper nolva PCT, and you will be pleasantly surprised!

posted by gymphreak

for injections....take your pick from www.spotinjections.com

As for rotating injection sites, id just pick three muscle groups, and rotate through them....for an example, my last cycle, i used delts, biceps, traps.......so i did it like this....

R. delt
L. trap
R. Bicep
L. delt
R.trap
L. bicep

posted by regino007

What he said^^^^^

posted by Smallguy

good advice GP

posted by A.B

I agree with you for most of what you said gymphreak. but i will hold by my original post in the other thread with my advice given.

tyramont, take my advice as personal experience, i go from my own knowledge and dont go by much else. test would be a wise frist cycle. just make sure you use antie's, ubt I will definaitely not rule out the my outlined cycle explained in my last thread.

you will find out what i mean soon enough when you react to different steroids.... take care and keep us posted

posted by gymphreak

stubborn are we AB?

posted by A.B

:D no way bro, I ainta stubborn....

posted by tyamont

GP, I respect your input, and thank you for taking the time to express it. I understand that Test is the fundamental block in building muscle both naturally and through supplementation. I also understand that "supplementation", no matter what specific type, is only a catalyst and the basic necesities for building mass/strength are required i.e. nutrition, rest, and training. I am not necessarily concerned with building mass so to speak. I am more concerned with strength, and more importantly, I am concerned with the overall quality of the results. I know test provides better mass and strength gains than EQ, but I think (and I could be way off here, I am trying to learn as much as I can) EQ will provide better quality results, though over a longer duration of time.

Thanks again

posted by gymphreak

EQ IMO, is not the best alone to put on mass and strength as many use it for cutting cycles. If you want strength and quality muscle, id still go with test. EQ is a mild steroid speaking on laymans terms.
You dont want to go past 12 weeks on a first cycle IMO, as it will be enough for you to experience the cycle.
EQ does provide good solid gains in the long run, but test itself will produce the same results, and not if better. Test is hella cheaper than eq in the first place, and test will give you the great feeling of being young again as well.
EQ can also be your nemisis, whereas it does drive your hunger up, and you can get fat off eq easily if you dont have the drive to keep your diet in check 24-7. I eat almost twice as much as normal (mind you, i eat an assload of food regularly) and that may not be a good thing if you are looking for solid gains as well.

This is as far as i can go really in helping you making up your mind, as ive offered as much as i can. If i were you, id go for test, but if you want to run EQ, by all means go for it, but remember this....all steroid induced gains are hard to keep, and your diet dictates what the steroid will do to your body! I can do a test only cycle, and gain only lean mass just as well as vice versa off eq, and bulk up like a madman

you say that you are interested in strength gains? Well, i train Powerlifting style all the time (just getting off a haitus from PLing and trying Powerbuilding) and ill tell ya this...the best strength steroid is trenbolone and deca. :thumbs:

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