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posted by cactusflower
Hi! I am a 32 yr old female, 5'4 and 138lbs. I am currently training for my first competion in June.
I am considering doing 1 cycle of Winstrol Tabs (2mg). My questionas are these: will i develop any signs or virilization? Will I grown excess body hair? Everything I read about women taking steroids says they "turn in to men" essentially.
I am considered pretty/cute, with a feminine hour glass body and large chested. I don't want to lose my feminity but want to shed fat fast! Any thoughts or experiences would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

posted by Smallguy
unfortunately I don;t think we have any femles on this board who have used AAS

winstrol and anavar are the 2 safest chocies for women. As with anything there is always a chance of getting undesired side effects I' recommend starting with a very low dose if you try winny or var.

if you want I can talk to a few female vets for you to get a start point for with of those 2 drugs.

posted by gymphreak
Actually, winny is too harsh for women ive heard. Its best to stick to anavar if anything. As for females starting to look like males, is from high doses of aas over periods of time, especially testosterone.

IMO, you should just stick to being natural, dial down the diet to the calorie, and hit the show clean. Get a respected nutritionist if anything as well....

posted by jcvaughn26
Well gympheak is sort of right. Females still use winny but anavar is better. You get more sides with winny according to Octopussy. Don't mean to send you off hope you still stick around, but if you need some help go to http://anabolicmadness.com/forums01/ There's a female board over there alot of girls but still a small board so it feels like a little family. You'll get alot of help from them.

posted by regino007
If its body fat your wanting to shed consider clen.Clen actually cuts fats by increasing the body temp.Winny just pulls water out of the body,use a water pill for that.

posted by ironman
try T3, T4 or T5s

posted by Storm
Yes wiiny can be harsh on a woman..Anavar is the best choice folowed by primo..The main things is be smart enought o control your dose..90% OF WOMEN DO NOT KEEP CLOSE WATCH ON DOSES AND END UP TAKING MORE WHICH LEADS TO THE BAD SIDES!! I ahve seen it plenty of times and all of them say I won't go up I won't use to much and they always do..Even my stinking ex did way more then she should have but even though she is a nurse she was stupid enough to belive drugs were the cause of her body not hard work my watchful eye and dedication...
Get anavar if you can run it at 5mgs a day for 6 week sand see how that treats you as you build it will be easier to hold on to what you have so keep that in mind this isn't a race time is involved and patience is a virtue...

posted by forbodybuilders
the best for girls to lost local fats is HELIOS! buy anabolics 2005 book and read profile..it's clenbuterol+ yohimbine hunde in liqide

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posted by A.B
Storm is definaitely the man to talk to about on this particular subject

posted by cactusflower
ok... so far it seems people are suggesting anavar over winny ... winsitrol was suggested to me... why is anavar better than winny?
Like I said my main concern is looking like a guy or losing my natural looks. It would be a limited time maybe 6 weeks ...my other question.. I'm on the pill.... will taking winny or anavr reduce the effects of the bcp?
thanks guys!!! you rock!

posted by Smallguy
anavar is safer and you will suffer less side effect generally no idea on the pill Strom may know though so Bump

posted by Storm
AS I said get some avavar it is the best choice and rarely any sides if done right..Winny can be harsh on your body and without getting into tech terms it is just harsh on your body as a woman...It won't affect the pills job but don't be surprised if you have weird periods or none at all..Storm

posted by cactusflower
Thanks Storm! No periods?! I can live with that!!!! :)

By the way...looooooooooove your pic ;)

posted by Storm
Good luck and thanks..Let me know if you have anymore questions...

posted by cactusflower
I'm torn...the downside to Anavar is the $$$ - what kind of results can i expect to see by doing 8 2mg winny tabs a day, three times a week? The cycle would be 6-8 weeks. Does it suppress appetite? Energy gains? I would only be taking winny... i'm not looking to take it forever just this one time/cycle.

thanks ;)

posted by Smallguy
As you know I talked to a female friend of mine for you and here is what she said

"it's better to run a more even dose in her system...say, 5mgs a day. this will lessen the chances of side effects. it is also a smaller amount, therefore, out of her system faster if she runs into problems. you can't "spike" a woman's system with drugs, that's what causes side effects...tell her to run 5mgs a day and after a couple of weeks she can bump up to 10mgs

MAKE SURE SHE TAPERS OFF or she will run into problems....i hope that helped a little.."

Smallguy

posted by Storm
There is no need for anyone male or female to taper it does not make sense..If $$ is bothering you you don't need to do gear it is not cheap in any form or fashion and as you gain more exp it gets more expensive...Most bottles of anavar come 5mg tabs and 100ct so that is 100 days as I advised you to do 5 mg a day for 6 weeks..100 days is over 3mths..So you could really get 2 cycles out of that 1 bottle so unless your getting charged $500 how is that expensive??

posted by Storm
Oh and on another note the only thing that would need to be tapered in a female cycle is an anti-e..SO again I repeat there is no need to taper you dose in the end of your cycle....Storm

posted by Smallguy
I believe she has decied to go with var

posted by cactusflower
Hey Guys!

Ya i decided on the var...turned out it wasn't as expensive as I thought it was going to be.
Should I be modifying my already strict diet when on it? Mostly protein now.

thanks! :)

posted by Smallguy
Psot your diet and we'll help you out meal by meal if you can of what your eating

posted by cactusflower
My diet changes from week to week. This week is protein only.

breakfast : 7 egg whites

snack: protein shake

Lunch - chicken or fish or turkey

snack- protein shake

dinner - chicken or fish or turkey
and water :sleep:

posted by Smallguy
when do u train ?? and what do u eat after you lift?

I think you would benfit form a TKD diet personally I'll get u a great article on it if you want.

also how much protien are in each of your shakes?

posted by cactusflower
WHAT is a TKD diet? I'm not doing bodybuilding ... maybe figure... haven't decided yet.

After I lift usually protein shake... I think it has 30g of protein...it's Isopro

posted by jcvaughn26
I believe he's talking about the ketogenic diet. Unfortunately the link I look at is gone. There are some great diet tips at this link though http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?t=21113

posted by Smallguy
I posted a really good article

http://www.bbforums.com/showthread.php?p=14947#post14947

posted by cactusflower
Wow ! Thanks you guys! :) :thumbs:

posted by Smallguy
no problem that's why we're all here

posted by kgressler
Where are your carbs and Veggies etc?
You arent gonna grow on protein alone. You need some green leaf veggies oats, red and sweet potato's, broccli. And what about your EFA you need some good fats in your diet fish dont really suplly enough unless you are eating them everyday 2 and 3 times a day.

posted by cactusflower
hey- so my trianer has my $$$ still don't have the var and he decided to take a vay-cay to NY for an unknown amount of time and didn't even tell me!!!! So now I am royally pissed of, want to fire his a$$ and get someone else! But more importantly give me my stuff or my money back!!! :fu: :fu: :fu:

Had to vent!
Thanks!

posted by gymphreak
damn that sucks.....honestly, if u know anyone that also competes locally, talk to them and they shoujld be able to get your stuff back or at least get you some var....I hate scammers!!

posted by octopussy
Lots of ladies are finding tapering down on their cycles beneficial in keeping rebound effects down. Helps keep an even keel on hormonal levels while coming off.

I personally dont do it.....and do rebound hard most times. But if diet is still kept in check, rebound can be kept minimal. Keeping water intake high is always beneficial also.

Cactusflower joined a couple of other boards I post on......hope we all have helped her enough :)

posted by Storm
Only time there should be a rebound effect like that is if they are using a long ester of some sort..Most should be on fast acting products only as sides are easier to control..The dose is where the key is at..Even at higer doses of the fast acting your rebound is minimal due to it getting out of the system fast..All depends on what you are using..Like you said if they keep eveything else in check things will be fine it is those that think gear is the reson for all the changes and not the hard work put into it or who helped on the way there that suffer the most due to stupidity...

posted by cactusflower
Yes you guys have helped me so much!!!! :) :) :)
I finally got my stuff (var) today and will be starting it today! YAY!
You know I will post more questions as they come up!!!!!

posted by cactusflower
Octo... quick question for you... I just strated var yesterday....5 mg tabs...how should i do my doses? My trainer doesn't have any experience with it and I have been informed he may be getting me to ramp up too fast...I am suspicious of it too. He wanted me to do 1 day of 5 day 2 of 10 and day 3 at 15 and then stay at 15. isn't that a bit fast?! What is your suggestion?
Thanks a bunch!

posted by Smallguy
Bump for octo or mck to see this

posted by octopussy
First time with var, stay at 5mg until at least 3 weeks, then bump up to ten......etc. Give your body time to absorb and see if any sides that you do not desire come up. If no problems after 3 weeks then bump again. I dont believe you will have any problems though......Good Luck :)

And if possible, split your dose up for AM and PM ;)

posted by cactusflower
Howlong does it stay in your system? The show i'm enteringis a tested show and what I have been told is you stand in front of a panel of drug testers in your bikini and they look for signs of the/a drug and if so then pulled aside. If you are a winner you are given a urine test or possibly a blood test.
Mytrainer said he only wants me on it for 4 weeks but then my again my trainer is a bit of a knob sometimes...show is at beginning of June.

posted by cactusflower
OMG that link rocks! There is so much info!!! I really haven't had a chance to look at it until now!

Thanks so much!!! Wicked!!! :thumbs:

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