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posted by DEVILDOG

Hey, guys...Dont mean to bother you all but I thought this was the best palce to get some advice!!! Im about Im 22 years old..medium build..180 pounds been working out for 4 years...until I got injured last year.....Knee Injury In Afghanistan..Tore ACL and Meniscus...I knocked me out of the gym for a while...I got out of shape....anway back to working out again...been using Supplements hard...just wont give me the results I want...So I just bought Roids....500 dbol/25mg, 250 Anavar, 200 Halotestin, and 11 vials of Sus 250........ This is my first time using....I know the Dbol and Sus is for bulk and Anavar and Halo is for cutting/strength.....Id like to stack one bulk with one strength......My question is whats the best cycle and breadown.....also what kind of needles do I need for the SUS??? Also I wont have access to Needles until later....so unfortunately my first cycle will be an Oral Cycle......any suggestions??? Can you guys advise....I dont want to f*ck up and do something dumb on my own......Also anything I should take with the Roids?? Milk Thistle? Whey protiens? Meal replacements? Amino Acids? etc........ Sorry to sound like a kid...but im new to this shit!!!

posted by Aaar0n

I'm not an expert at this, but I'll give you some basic knowledge.
Never do an 'oral only' cycle.
Your gains will be minimum and as soon as you go off, you'll lose everything. Therefore, DO NOT DO oral only cycles.
Suppliments are not giving you the results you want? Alot of people find suppliments a waste of money. In your case, you might of figured that out on your own.

If I were you, I would get your diet in check before starting any steroids. If you're not sure what to eat and how much food intake you should be getting, don't expect to gain much. Alot of people don't realize this, but, your food is your anabolic and your steroids are the icing on the cake. In other words, Steriods will help take you to the next level. Doing one cycle won't give you that look you want. you have to work for it and earn it.

You said you have 11 vials of sustanon. Okay, how many ml's or mg's are in each vial?
Do you even know if you have enough to run a 10-12 week cycle?

This is just me, but if I were you, I would stack the D-bol and Sustanon with Deca or maybe even Test.

Like you said "I don't want to **** up" and we don't want you to **** up either. I'd recommend doing a little more research.
IMO, I would hold off on your cycle before you learn the basics and you have all your stuff together.

posted by jcvaughn26

Are you out of the country? You can get needles easily from alot of research companies. I'd get more susta and run a Test dbol cycle.

posted by DEVILDOG

Yes Im in Iraq..right now....I can get the needles but not until July....As much as I dont want to start the all oral Cycle.....It ok If I Test out Var with dbol for now Until I can get the needles to stack the Halo with Sus??? Or am I really going about this all wrong!!

posted by gymphreak

honestly, doing an all oral cycle will not yield you much in the long run, as your diet will not be able to support the gains even if you did put on weight with the orals, due to the fact that you cant even grow off the food alone. PLUS, the bad thing about orals is that they cause you to hold alot of water (especially dbol) which makes you think you are putting on alot of mass, which once you stop the cycle, the water retention will dissappear, which gives the illusion of that you are losing muscle mass. with all due reality, you dont even put on much mass with orals. Var itself, does not make you hold water, as it will draw water from your muscles, making you look leaner, and will put a little strength on you.
MY advice to you is this...wait until you can start eating tons and tons of food, and putting on weight and this will enable you to put on muscle mass, as your body's caloric intake will be higher than what is needed to maintain your weight.

Here is how your body works....if your body is recieving less than maintenance requirements of calories, your body will shed weight, if the caloric intake is higher than maintenance, it will gain weight.

As for using anabolics, if you still are going to plunge into it, By all means, do a sustanon only cycle, which will be great for mass, providing that your caloric intake is higher than maintenance. IMO, theres no need to run dbol with sustanon since the sust has fast acting testosterone in it, which will kick in within a week.
Make sure you have Nolva on hand for gyno, and enough PCT (nolva or clomid) for after your cycle is done to recover faster, and keep the majority of your gains after the water retention disperses.

Halo itself, is NOT a drug for first time users, as it is very toxic to the liver, makes one agressive (if you are naturally agressive and short tempered, and have a hard time controlling your agression in some cases, halo will be problematic) So, if you do a halo only cycle, you will get a fair bit of strength gains, due to the high agression in the gym.

Hope this helps bro.....Dont hesitate to ask more info! :D

posted by DEVILDOG

Gymphreak thanks for the advice... your the man for helping out.....

It just sucks now, cause I have all these roids..in hand...I guess I got stupid...I had done my research...I just acted on a spur of the moment situation...

The calorie intake wouldnt be bad here...I have access to food...the only thing that sucks is I wont have needles for the SUS for anotehr 8 weeks.....That was my orginal plan ...High calorie diet with Sus and Halo as a cycle...maybe not the Halo since its notorius history of agression.....

But Since I couldnt Get acess to the needs soon...i got the dbol and Var to get me started (bad idea I know) But I was only gonna use for the intial 8 weeks until the needles got here.....Then switch to a SUS only use...after taking a break from the dbol/var 8 week cycle for 2.5 weeks......

I was hoping even if its minimal to keep some gains off the 8 week dbol/var stack, when I start the Sus cycle.......is this the thoughts of stupidity? Or wishful thinking, that possibly might work? As long as my intake for calories are high and im pounding the weight for about 2 hours a day....(by the way my workout is two days on, one day off...Im guessing this is another bad idea while on anabolics??)

any..Thanks...all this input is severely helping

posted by gymphreak

honestly, 8 weeks of dbol and var together is just an overkill....itll stress the liver a fair bit, and then you will jump on test...IMO...just wait it out bro...patience is a virtue.
Dbols themselves (as well as anadrol), are probably the worst anabolic steroid out there....its basically just a money scam for sources, as people buy em, use em, and then lose all the water, then want more...basically running dbols for 8 weeks will give you absolutely nothing for the money. Dbols only are good for kickstarting a cycle to get something out of the cycle early before the test kicks in or whatever your running.

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