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| posted by musclenut |
| I have done 2 pervious cycles before. My last cycle was Sust and Eq and I got big off of it. This is going to be my best cycle yet. I am looking to get ripped and bigger. I also have QV EQ 200mgX20ml on hand and I know it would be alittle better to use that instead of the Deca but I need the deca for support of my joints with the winny. I am also going to be useing b12 2 - 3 times a week. I have plenty of Clomid and Nolva for PCT. I have a great diet and I do cardio 3 or 4 times a week for a half hour at a time. I am also going to be takeing either milk thistle or Tyler Liver Detox Factors. I haven't decieded on that yet. I think I have all areas covered. 1 Test E 500mg, deca 400mg, Dbol 30 mg Ed 2 Test E 500mg, deca 400mg, Dbol 30 mg Ed 3 Test E 500mg, deca 400mg, Dbol 30 mg Ed 4 Test E 500mg, deca 400mg, Dbol 30 mg Ed 5 Test E 500mg, deca 400mg, Winny 50mg ED 6 Test E 500mg, deca 400mg, Winny 50mg ED 7 Test E 500mg, deca 400mg, Winny 50mg ED 8 Test E 500mg, deca 400mg, Winny 50mg ED 9 Test E 500mg, deca 400mg, Winny 50mg ED 10 Test E 500mg, deca 400mg, Winny 50mg ED 11 Test E 500mg, Winny 50mg ED 12 Test E 500mg, Winny 50mg ED MN |
| posted by shortz |
| 12 weeks of 17aa...shame shame... I think that every cycle I do is better and better. In reality, it's not my cycle that makes the difference, but my diet. Every cycle I get better and better about my diet. Coming back from Jamaica, I'll be getting into my 3rd cycle. I never even hit 3000cals on cycle...until this next one. I will be getting about 3600 cals...with a 40/40/20 ratio. I am hoping that the Eq is going to help me with my appetite too. My goal is 230lbs at the end and I know it's going to happen...I have 14 weeks of sust and Eq and lots of food to do it. My freezer is packed so that when I open the door, everything falls out. |
| posted by Durabolin |
| Yeh 12 weeks of orals not so good mate. Also deca whilst helping out with the winny joint soreness, is not the best choice as you are looking to add LBM only and even drop some fat. I would do test, eq, with a dbol kickstart of 4 weeks. Have 4 weeks off the orals and then if you like use winstrol for the last 4. If you are able to get reasonably priced var, I would sub that for the winny. |
| posted by A.B |
| use the winstrol at 50mg Ed from weeks 10-14, then the next day start PCT. |
| posted by president_fad |
| you lucky bitch, i was eating 4k calories and i weighed 186 and i couldnt gain shit. Oh and the cycles looks good. Listen to the bros about the orals, itd be harsh on your liver. And i always reccomend running prop at the end of everycycle while waiting for the long ester to finish being active. |
| posted by Durabolin |
| Yes that's always an excellent idea Fad :) I would run the cycle like this: week 1 test frontload of 750 day 1 250 friday, Equipoise 600 day1 200mg friday. week 2-9 500 test 400 eq - preferably weeks 2-10 as eq works best ran for longer periods but you only have 20ml of 200mg and I think a frontload is more benficial than the extra week on the end between the two. weeks 1-4 30mg dbol ED weeks 10-12 500 prop/week weeks 10-13 30-40mg Var ED Start clomid the day after you stop the Var. Use HCG twice a week 500iu monday and friday weeks 1-11 The cycle should be fully effective right up until PCT ran this way bro and then a quick crossover to recovery |
| posted by president_fad |
| you dont even need 500 of the prop. Id say 100mg eod would be perfect for two reasons. 1 being there is still the slow acting ester still in the body making you need less test. And 2 there is more test per 100mg of prop then there is of the enanthate rendering less needed. Thats just my .02 tho. |
| posted by musclenut |
| That sounds good. I will hold off on the winny until my next cycle. I take b12 so I can eat like a mad man. |
| posted by Durabolin |
| Yes I agree Pres, thanks for pointing that out! (and I should remember to press quote not edit on your post next time :D ) |
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