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posted by gocanucks19
Hey guys, Im really looking into this cycle. Im 20 yrs old, 160 lbs, the diet is perfected in my mind, and the training is good. Now, a lot of ppl test me to do a test cyp cycle, or include it in the deca/winny cycle, but ive been told (by my doctor) also that its not the best thing for me. Im only looking to put on 15-20 lbs, absoluetly no more than. Is there any way I can have success with a cycle of deca/winny as i dont want to experience the side effects associated with test cyp (hair loss, increased estrogen (possible gyno)). Or, would you guys say that it is necessary for me to do a test cyp/winny cycle instead. I dont want to be not able to get it up for 8 weeks either (obviously) so please guys help me out. Deca is the steroid witht the weakest side effects, and thats why i want to do it. And i wanna stress, I dont want to take big risks when doing this, im not looking to explode, just put on some muscle, whats the best way to go?

posted by A.B
all the side effects you listed from test can be prevented.... for hairloss take finasteride, for water retention and gyno l-dex and nolva... for PCT take clomid/nolva....

now, even if you start at 250mg of test a week you will see how you react to this and IF you get side effects then it will be easier to control.... 250mg is enough to put on weight even by itself... if you want to add winni in at the end of the cycle, say for the last 4-6 weeks, then do so at 50mg....

posted by gocanucks19
So A.B. if you were in my position, what would u recommend, Im 160, looking to put on 15-20 lbs of muscle. Would you recommend test cyp/deca/winny or test cyp/winny, or deca/winny. Im not trying to put on huge gains, just 15-20, and i want to minimize side effects. Ive heard that test cyp is a lot harder of the body, that is why i really prefer to take a deca/winny cycle, people have been telling me that this isnt a smart idea because of possible erectile problems, but can this be prevented, and is it a common side effect.Thanks for your help

posted by brownbomber
hey bro i wouldnt say deca is the steroid with the "weakest" side effects, the sides with deca can be pretty pronounced as well depending on the dosage, however deca is one of the best steroids gains vs side effects...if your looking to put on 15-20 lbs test/deca would be your best bet, save the winny for when your body fat is low enough to notice the results of winny because to run winny with deca would give you great strength gains, but the winny will not help in puttin on the weight you want...and if your worried about water retention use anti estrogens...but thats just my opionion if u did opt for the deca/winny its still a great cycle :thumbs:

posted by Sustanon143
AB how should the finasteride, l-dex, nolva, clomid be taken? Meaning when and how? thanks

posted by Sustanon143
Brown Bomber, taking Anti-estro's on Deca helps with the water retention from Deca?

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