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posted by SMBLSBGARMS

This is going to be my 1st cycle after almost 3 yrs of not lifting.
Don't freak out, I'm back in the gym hard at it and am going to wait 'till I'm ready before going on it. Just in the planning/accumulating stage now.

wks 1-12 Sustanon 250 @ 500mg/wk
wks 2-5 Anadrol 50 @ 50mg/day
Nolvadex on hand
Hcg at the end

tossing around the idea of Clenbuterol/T-3 stack on final 3-4 wks
I'll have to see, I'm not that fat and my experience has been the bigger I get the easier it is for me to lean out just by dropping calories.

My goal is to put back a good amount of size that I lost. I wanna stay kinda low dose, I don't wanna gain too much too fast and hurt anything. Not sure what to expect this time around.

I'm gonna do more than one cycle so no need to try to get it all now by doing crazy stuff.:)

posted by AMERFOOTBALL

i would run the sust at 250mg eod or e 3d at least. drop the a bombs though. i would just run test only with some proviron and nolva on hand just in case...

posted by A.B

keep things simple. treat it as it is your frist cycle and do sustanon only. HCG is to be run during the cycle, not for PCT. aside from that shoudl be good... take nolva/clomid for PCT... dont mess around with clen or t3, just get yuor diet and cardio on track and you wont need it.... most people use these drugs as an easy way out from a shitty diet... you have sometime to get your shit in order before you start your cycle judging by your pics so dont jump the gun.

posted by SMBLSBGARMS

Yeah, I do have a ways to go. If I tried to juice up now it would be a waste.
I've seen here a lot of guys run hcg during a cycle, but isn't that for when you're always on? In the past, I just let the boys shrink then after the cycle did 1500iu hcg every 5 days 3 shots total and Nolva every day. It seemed to work. I lost water weight but I kept almost all my size and strength, the boys came back, and I had no d**k probs. I figured all that meant I didn't crash after the cycle. I've never done Clomid, maybe I should.

I'm not saying your wrong, that's why I'm here. To get some different opinions.
I probably won't mess with the clen/T-3, I don't have much problem getting lean and I'm no pro, but my diet is pretty good. I've just never tried them before and was always curious about what I would look like.

posted by A.B

HCG can actually prevent your natural testosterone from coming back once your off if you chose to take it for PCT... main purpose is for it to be taken during the cycle so when you come off, and go on clomid/nolva you'll have a faster recovery

here is the profile of HCG on here it should answer all of your questions:

http://www.bbforums.com/showthread.php?t=135

posted by A.B

keep in mind those profiles are a bit out dated and i shoudl get around to updating them.... but the information in their is correct, not the cycling of HCG... but once again, during the cycle, not for PCT

posted by estray

Here.

http://www.bbforums.com/showthread.php?t=5809

posted by SMBLSBGARMS

Thanks, guys. Good article, never heard it that way before. He's saying you could use nolva and clomid or just Nolvadex. I've taken nolva post cycle but never by itself. I keep it on hand during the cycle and use it as little as possible so I don't defeat the strong androgens too bad, but how much should I take per day for pct purposes if I take nolva only after using hcg through the cycle? 1 20mcg tab per day?

posted by estray

I think the way to go nolva only is 3 weeks 60/40/20. I know alot of guys are doing it as clomid has kinda fallen from grace as the primary pct drug. Ive read studies where 50mg of nolva raised test levels significantly higher than 150mg of clomid. Plus at 150mg of clomid, you might just turn into a big pussy. Haha. Really you could take either one alone or both together. Its all gonna get the job done. If I have any nolva left at the end of my cycle i might cut the clomid dose a little and use both.

posted by SMBLSBGARMS

If I become a big pussy, I'm gonna replace my TV with a mirror and sit on the couch and stare at myself all day long:hi:
Man, you just never get tired of those things!

posted by estray

Lmao!

posted by SMBLSBGARMS

This is so unnecessary. Storm is gonna be mad! I hear he's real mean! :ohcrap:

posted by up n up

can anyone help me with telling me the cycles of testoprim-d??? i wnat to start my new package but cant seem to touch basis with my doc on my doses!!!! please help

posted by AMERFOOTBALL

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